Jeff Stein

Broncos, Tigers, Eels, Dragons, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs, Sharks 288 4 No upsets

And a reserve side usually

Says the poster who started the Warrington Wolves - laughing stock thread

Apparently British chances of getting double figure points in Eurovision

Bulldogs, Broncos, Warriors, Dragons, Panthers, Sharks, Eels, Cowboys 288 5 1

Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, Panthers, Sea Eagles, Roosters, Cowboys, Storm, Sharks 336 7 5 or 6 teams

And how do you get a number of community clubs to organically appear out of nothing? With respect people like to say this, but it never happens. The one area of success is probably the North East but those clubs don't pre-date Thunder. The two clubs that came out of the amateur game in the South, Skolars and Hurricanes, clearly both have had their own issues of late and, lest we forget, Keighley last year put forward that they should be thrown out of the league with WWR

Generally I would agree, but then speedway wasn't a dying, failing sport in the UK until it started being a failing sport (and possibly dying). I have written elsewhere that growing up I couldn't imagine amateur rugby league teams in my county let alone one which is by most standards very successful having produced a number of professionals including one just signed to a NRL club and two internationals. Yet I have fears going forward as no matter how strong that club is the junior leagues in which it plays appear to be struggling and the response from the RFL, as it appears to be for most things in the South, seems to be no more than a shrug of the shoulders. 42 years after the foundation of Fulham, there is still no strategic plan in place for London and the south. Not many businesses nowadays avoid planning or suggest the plan is inertia. The lack of money point only goes so far when the increase in employees at the RFL has been substantial from the two or three in the Oxley/Howes era when I started watching. The issue is whether there is real desire to assist the outposts or are they too easily forgotten. If half the effort (and of late monies) involved in the infighting we have seen for a number of years had gone into developing the game both in the heartlands and outposts we might not be discussing this

I don't know. I'm not the one suggesting that the sport should just support what it's got. To turn it around if it's so wonderful why do some appear to think that it is impossible for people outside its heartlands to want to participate in and enjoy it?

Always glad to see the Got to Concentrate on the Heartlands theory turn up. Yet isn't that what has happened for the last 127 years? Never mind just a few more years and that policy will be a raging success

Their failing sham of a club rips the heart of our club and we should be grateful when they throw us a bone.

Broncos, Panthers, Rabbitohs, Raiders, Roosters, Eels, Storm, Tigers 320 4 Rabbitohs v Sea Eagles

Blast. Easter holidays knocked me out of sync

Excellent speedway commentator. Mixed knowledge, passion and humour

Raiders, Rabbitohs, Panthers, Sea Eagles, Storm, Roosters, Dragons, Eels 0 288 Eels v. Tigers

Just finished watching a tape of the game and I am trying to recall a more woeful performance in the NRL. The Sharks were pretty poor in a lot of aspects so one wonders how it would have ended it they hadn't had the error rate they had. Not sure how Maguire still has a job because his team clearly aren't interested in playing for him.

42 years since the founding of Fulham and the RFL still hasn't got round to producing a strategic plan for London. That gives an indication as to where non-heartlands development sits on the ladder of importance. The stakeholders with power in rugby league would rather be bald men fighting over a comb (structural change, breakaway, realignment, structural change, breakaway, realignment ad nauseum) than get to grips with the fact that you can only get so many players of sufficient quality and funding out of a relatively small number of towns. Can Cas or Wigan really produce any more than they are already doing? It is a shame that the energy that goes into infighting or moaning about how many away fans are turning up isn't put into positive development of the sport. It is difficult to run a professional club, but it is at least doubly difficult outside the heartlands. Non-heartlands clubs seem to be expected to grow the game in their areas and produce players while their budgets have been slashed and with next to no central assistance. They have to at the same time compete with clubs who do next to no development themselves, but are able to fill out their teams with ex-academy players from super league clubs and bolster their ranks with loan and DR signings from higher leagues. When I was involved with a community club years ago, the impression given in any dealings with the RFL was invariably that people there were pleased that we were playing their game, but that it was their game not our game. I am not sure that anything has changed on that front. Having said all of that and so not to be totally despondent, I should note it's not all bad. Growing up where I live I could never have imagined the game not only being played in my town, but to have a thriving junior section producing professional players, including two internationals and one signed last week by a NRL club. That club has grown out of a team which back in the mid noughties was perhaps the WWR of its day: taking weekly hammerings and being subject to the same sort of online derision. At least there is the satisfaction of seeing what developed when nearly twenty years ago we too were being called an embarrassment to the sport.

Men against much smaller men at Skolars. Result was on the cards in warm up when it appeared even Cru's scrum half was as big as our largest player. Cru looked a Championship team and dominated physically throughout. Skolars were plucky but completely outgunned.

Knights, Warriors, Roosters, Storm, Rabbitohs, Eels, Sharks, Panthers 336 4 Warriors v. Cowboys

Started at Brentwood Eels I believe

Oleksi Tsybko ex- Ukrainian RU captain and president died at Bucha defending his country

I felt that too when I read your post. I hate coming on this site after watching a game I have enjoyed to read how rubbish it actually was.

I watched it on The Sportsman and have to say found it pretty dull as well.

He'll be outraged when he finds out that despite their geographical limitations the RFL calls the national team England (and previously Great Britain) and the ARL calls their's Australia. An argument straight out of the Stephen Jones handbook

Poll- 1 Titans, Sharks, Panthers, Warriors, Sea Eagles, Cowboys, Storm, Eels Points- 384 Away Wins - 0