Tommygilf

Should be a cracker this. A knockout game before the knockouts.

That is incredibly poor. One of the only reasons to have so many existing RL venues (as opposed to Bristol for example) should be to boost awareness and legacy for RL in the area. To see little activity is very poor from those clubs.

Their Facebook name is still Leigh Centurions...

Its frankly embarrassing. I may be able to get some mates along at £30 in the B category with student concession tickets. But to pay an equivalent full price ticket, we'd be in the corner of the ends (ends that won't have sold out) or up in the back of the ends (which I know for a fact have big old metal posts obstructing your view). What was Dutton thinking?

To add as well, how cheap are the "cheap seats"?

I think not offering multi ticket packages for venues is a frankly horrendous mistake. It would boost attendances across the fixtures at any given venue. Its especially bad when they are loading up certain venues as they are.

Agreed, though Hull often does poorly when there is a game on in West Yorkshire too. The QFs need to be strong for the tournament in and *should* be all 10k plus at least. They are traditionally hard sells though and I do worry that again the premium seats won't do well however.

Thank you. Yeah it is disappointing. Like you I think, I haven't understood the strategy from day 1. Doubling down on certain areas, yet increasing ticket prices as if they are more exclusive. It just seemed off from the start. The lack of that buzz is worrying for me. The feelgood is struggling to get through at times. I think a lot of that is down to a fundamental misunderstanding of the RL heartlands too. I have been wondering what would have happened if they just did 2013 but with 2021* prices and a few less venues tbh. Not saying that it would work but it had crossed my mind.

Thank you. I don't think the the choice to move to modern stadia is particularly a bad one, it just seems that the size of venues has been inappropriate for most fixtures; and crucially that there is an oversupply in some areas. The 3rd group game thing is fine for me. It is what it is and that's how world cups work with the range of aims and aspirations for different teams. The problem is that they have triple loaded some stadiums, and in the West of the Pennines concentrated that saturation too. 3 games in St Helens or Leigh would probably be fine if you didn't also have 4 games in Warrington, 3 games in Wigan and Bolton and the final in Manchester.

NZ should be playing their group games outside the M62. Preferably in London. If they played their 3 group games at say Brentford, we'd be far closer to 60k, probably more, than to a likely sub 20k total attendance across 3 games. Firstly because there is a dearth of games in the South of England for fans to attend, second, because "NZ Rugby" carries significant caché to the casual sports ticket buyer, and finally, because Ireland, Jamaica and Lebanon have huge expat and heritage communities in London itself too (London Irish of course playing at Brentford). I'm not an economist, but from this position of ignorance it seems the organisers have both saturated the RL heartlands and increased prices. In other words they have increased supply and increased prices, without necessarily increasing demand (and its all on the BBC this time too). As such, those heartland fans are able to and are proving to be, far more selective with their purchases. There has been individually poor efforts on specific matches within that too, which hasn't helped.

I assume you would have Samoa in your reduced numbers world cup. You know Samoa who have been beaten by England by almost as much as NZ beat Jamaica tonight. The problem with this logic is it becomes very easy to talk yourself into a tri-nations, or even just an Ashes tour. The problem is obviously when the Australians decide to apply the same logic, and don't include us.

Jamaica absolutely proving why 16 is fantastic tonight. What a moment.

That's what its about!

If you can't see why this is embarrassing you're deluded.

That's fine. One of my clubs attempted at badge change a few years ago. It was horrific, we got them to back down in hours.

I'd be fuming

I believe there is a club yes, or at least there was a few years ago

Carol is on board

Fiji should win, but Italy can be quietly confident. Love these 3 game world cup days!

If possible it would be nice, France should absolutely be the priority though.

I hope you meant Freudian H and you weren't calling me a fraud! But yeah I just thought of it now watching Australia vs NZ T20. Not perfect, but good enough to get the point across.

Not at all Harry, one team was nilled and the other scored just a single penalty and was otherwise well beaten (I was there). Scotland drew with NZ in 2016. Anything is possible. Some things are more likely than others. If you don't pin your enjoyment entirely on that expectation then you'll enjoy it more.

Probably a good place to start is to just state your credentials then let others decide if you "have more knowledge than 99% of this forum", rather than saying it yourself.

Well I suggest you consider your phrasing and choice of words then, because on here at least, coming across as cocky (which you are doing) will receive ridicule. As an aside, I've known plenty of people who were confidently wrong. Confidence is no guarantee of accuracy.

Nah mate its embarrassing to say you have "more knowledge than 99% of people on this forum."