
LeytherRob
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Catchment is 1 point out of 20. There are plenty other ways to score or lose points. London suffer because the crowds are tiny, finances are propped up by 1 guy with very little income elsewhere from gates/merchandising, their low social media engagement and so on, even if they corrected the catchment for London(which they should) they’d still be getting relegated because they’ve been a hollow entity for a decade now.
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Applications to League 1 Open
LeytherRob replied to sam4731's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
No different to the travel Cornwall have to do every other week now. As for finances, SL clubs need to make sure sufficient funding is trickling down if they want league 1 to continue. -
You do get punished for not making inroads into a large catchment though, catchment is 5% of the grading. London are a prime example of being punished for not taking advantage of a large market to go at.
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They could climb, but they'd never get close to what they could be in SL. Same goes for every club. Sure, some relegated clubs will come down with good attendances(Wakey, Bradford, Widnes, KR) but if they don't bounce back quickly they soon start leaving in droves. The novelty of playing new teams wears off quickly and the numbers don't lie.
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Ultimately, what matters to the sport is numbers through the gates and watching on TV, the context behind them is irrelevant. The only thing unfair about measuring attendances in this way for IMG points in my opinion, is that it stacks against championship/league 1 clubs who are strangled by their exposure levels. It(along with several other factors) make the prospect of achieving grade A outside the top tier incredibly difficult which could soon become the only way to get promoted
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Yeah I don’t get it either. I’m perfectly comfortable with the fact that Leigh aren’t, never have been and most likely never will be anything but a smaller club than Leeds and I don’t see a problem with that being reflected in the IMG points.
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Leigh granted elite academy license from 2025
LeytherRob replied to LeytherRob's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
https://leighleopards.co.uk/contact-us-3/ You'll probably have more luck here than an Internet forum -
@phiggins thought this might cheer you up
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Leigh granted elite academy license from 2025
LeytherRob replied to LeytherRob's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
I know from discussions I've had with him, it's something DB has become obsessed with in recent years after initially going down the short term route in 2016/17. I think he realised after 2018s debacle that if he pulled out there would be nothing to show for all his money spent. -
Leigh granted elite academy license from 2025
LeytherRob replied to LeytherRob's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Looks like Salford have had theirs awarded also -
Yep, I called it before this season even started he'd be going back home at the end of this year. He's far too good not to, capable of punching holes in defences, capable of 80 minute performances and rarely makes any errors. Not to mention he's only 28 so got plenty in the tank. I've no doubt he'll be getting rave reviews down there this time next year.
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I'd be surprised. I think ultimately Nakubuwai was retained due to the cap, I think he would be on a pretty low deal for a quota spot due to high wages elsewhere in the squad and now those funds are being freed up there is scope to rebalance the wages into a better import than him. The emergence of Hughes as a prop option as well as Trout and Norman settling in should hopefully put an end to his bench spells
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Applications to League 1 Open
LeytherRob replied to sam4731's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Weren't they looking at dropping the Championship back down to 12 in the coming seasons over a transitional period? Long term i think they need to start putting plans in place now to have League 1 be a North/South split feeding into a national championship, the same way they have with the Womens game, but it will need new clubs in both north and south and sufficient funding at a realistic level to let them function without having to have a string of benefactors. -
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LeytherRob replied to sam4731's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
To be honest, that's what we want in the short/medium term because it gets a pathway going for newer areas without the risk of throwing a club to the top of the pyramid before it's ready. The more players from a developing area move to big clubs and play SL rugby, the more the players that follow have to aspire to until the pro clubs in their area can develop to a level that matches their ambition. -
Going into the 2023 season we had to recruit a lot more than that. I wouldn't worry.
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Applications to League 1 Open
LeytherRob replied to sam4731's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
That's generally how we've always operated and except for Catalans which we're really an expansion club, all have failed. See Gateshead Thunder, Sheffield Mk1, Toronto Wolfpack, Paris Saint Germain, Celtic Crusaders. It's a shortcut that always fails because the clubs are built on foundations of sand. Sheffield Mk2 are a better example of 'expansion' done right, building at a slower pace but even that has had to be underpinned significantly by a generous benefactor. The trick is to get the right environment that can attract those types, but also enough to survive for the clubs without. We won't ever get true expansion until we start doing the hard yards and start thinking about where the game should be in 25, 50 years down the line and not where we want it in 3 or 4 years time. Clubs like Midlands, Newcastle, Cornwall aren't going to just take off overnight - they need years, even decades of work to develop the surrounding infrastructure to thrive. Since the RFL is generally too impotent to actually make the decisions to assign the money properly and the small pot we do have is controlled by the clubs at the top of the pyramid, the best way at this point would be to appeal to the their selfish nature - For example you could give a trade off to clubs for salary cap dispensations in exchange for funding of development officers in targeted regions, or even IMG points for any extra curricular development of the wider game. -
IMG Grading System (Many Merged Threads)
LeytherRob replied to marklaspalmas's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
That data will be captured within the revenue and % of non centralised turnover -
IMG Grading System (Many Merged Threads)
LeytherRob replied to marklaspalmas's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
The attendance score needs tweaking in my opinion, but i don't think you need to start involving catchment area in there. The main issue for me is that the milestones of 1.5k, 3k and 7.5k are too far apart and there should be additional steps in between the 3 and 7.5, maybe even raising the top tier to 10k which should be the ultimate goal of all SL clubs. As it stands, in terms of the attendance related points available(attendance and stadium utilization) a club getting 4.5k fans in a 6k stadium would be getting more points(2.75) for those criteria than one getting 7k fans in a 10k stadium(2.7) even though the latter would offer much more value to the game. -
Applications to League 1 Open
LeytherRob replied to sam4731's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Agree with pretty much all that. It's vitally important for the game to keep a sufficient level of funding going to the lower leagues. It just isn't feasible for any club to be properly self sustaining in league 1 and if we're going to have any hope of getting true growth of the game across the UK then we need enough funding to give these clubs time to achieve it. -
LSV would probably have been a consideration for the Wire/Hudds game were it not for the fact the entire pitch was ripped out immediately following the Salford game. It's going through a full renovation this year rather than the usual yearly reseed, meaning they are replacing the synthetic grass altogether.