RayCee

If one does a points tally of clubs in the top five nations in Europe according to my long standing method for domestic and European, the following results (minimum 5 points): 14 points: Liverpool, Real Madrid. 8 points: Man City. 7 points: Inter Milan. 6 points: AC Milan, Bayern M, PSG, Eintracht Frankfurt. 5 points: Chelsea. Of course, points are not a perfect way. Not every nation above has a league cup comp. It's generally accepted that the English season is the most punishing. Every game is a fight in the PL. Someone with experience in both the Bundesliga and the EPL was recently asked what the difference was. They said (for a top side) half the games in the BL were a real contest but every game in the EPL was. Had Liverpool won the Champions League, no one would have questioned his comment. Losing that put them second IMO. Man City will feel they should have been up there with the top two. Pep will be on a mission to rectify that next season.

I'm tragic but not that tragic.

I'm sorry I don't always answer as quickly as I'd like but being the other side of the world means I'm often asleep while someone makes a comment about something I've posted.. From the 1960/61 season, points for the League are 6,3,2,1. FA Cup 4,2. League Cup 3,1. That's 22 points in total per season. European comps has a similar system. Rochdale were the losing side in the 1962 League Cup final. Oldham and Tranmere the same but in 1976 and 1990. Rotherham 1961 and Bradford 2013. Oxford United won it in 1986. The league Cup has given some clubs the chance for a finals appearance which is surely prized by those clubs.

There will always be contention with video decisions but all we can hope for is consistency.

Can you point out where I said it wasn't a goal?

Which region is the best for Football in England over the past 60 odd years? Putting some points for top results on the local scene and in European competition: Rk Club Tot UK Area Pts 1 Liverpool F.C. 310 219 N West 799 2 Manchester U 273 216 46.6 5 Manchester C 114 102 8 Everton F.C. 67 63 17 Blackburn 13 13 24 Burnley F.C. 10 10 32 Wigan Athletic 5 5 40 Preston N E 2 2 42 Bolton Wander 2 2 46 Rochdale A.F.C. 1 1 47 Oldham Athletic 1 1 48 Tranmere Rov 1 1 3 Chelsea F.C. 178 127 London 506 4 Arsenal F.C. 173 145 29.5 6 Tottenham HS 104 78 14 West Ham Utd 25 18 25 Queens Park R 9 9 30 Crystal Palace 6 6 34 Fulham F.C. 5 2 31 Wimbledon 4 4 43 Milwall F.C. 2 2 9 Nottingham For 53 36 Midland 188 10 Aston Villa 45 37 11.0 12 Leicester City 28 28 15 Derby County 18 16 18 West Bromwich 12 12 19 Wolverhampton 12 9 23 Birmingham City 10 7 29 Stoke City 6 6 33 Coventry City 4 4 7 Leeds United 79 56 N East 139 13 Newcastle Utd 25 18 8.1 16 Sheffield Wed 13 13 22 Middlesborough 10 7 26 Sunderland 8 8 44 Hull City 2 2 45 Rotherham Utd 1 1 49 Bradford City 1 1 11 Ipswich Town 30 24 East 52 20 Norwich City 11 11 3.0 27 Watford F.C. 7 7 35 Luton Town 4 4 21 Southampton 11 11 South 25 28 Portsmouth F.C. 6 6 1.5 36 Swindon Town 3 3 37 Oxford United 3 3 41 Brighton & Hove 2 2 38 Cardiff City 3 3 Wales 6 39 Swansea City 3 3 0.3 1715 1364 1715

Liverpool gave it a crack but RM was content to absorb it like they have done through much of the tournament. Courtois was immense and kept them in the game. As for your comment on the no goal, if it was completely legit, then it wouldn't have been gone over so many times. Using the word 'completely' made me realise you were watching a different game. It was anything but obvious.

Spare a thought for the Football fans in Spain, where a few teams dominate, not just recently but since way back when. From the the 1961-61 season, allocating points to the top four sides shows that for most fans, their team simply being in La Liga is the aim. Winning it? No way José. La Liga Tot 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 1 Real Madrid 240 6 3 6 2 2 6 3 3 2 3 2 FC Barcelona 198 3 2 3 6 6 3 6 6 3 6 3 Atlético Madrid 101 2 6 2 3 3 2 2 2 6 2 4 Valencia CF 50 1 1 1 5 Atlético Bilbao 29 1 6 Real Sociedad 27 1 7 Deportivo Coruña 26 8 Real Zaragoza 16 9 Sevilla CF 11 1 1 1 1 10 RCD Espanyol 8

Congratulations to Man City for taking the PL title. I did a chart some years back that goes to the 1960/61 season and allocates 6,3,2,1 points to the top four clubs in each season. The up to date list, including the past ten seasons and the top ten clubs is below. The green shading indicates the team with the most accumulative points. Premier League Tot 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 1 Liverpool F.C. 146 3 2 6 3 1 1 3 2 Manchester Utd 145 3 2 3 1 6 3 Arsenal F.C. 81 3 2 1 1 4 Chelsea F.C. 62 2 1 1 2 6 6 2 2 5 Manchester City 61 6 6 3 6 6 2 1 3 6 3 6 Leeds Utd 42 7 Everton F.C. 39 8 Tottenham Hotsp 35 1 1 2 3 2 9 Ipswich Town 20 10 Nottingham F 20

Appalling. Prison for sure.

I even remember Tom Hanks playing Forest.

It would be nice for Forest to have a crack at the PL. The game needs a fresh yo-yo team. Seriously, I recall the Forest team when they were the champions of Europe. It seems so long ago.

LFC win at Southampton. They are taking the title down to the last game. As they say it’s not over until the rotund lady sings.

Here's a set of pics of the game on the weekend. Done by Cornwall sports media. https://cornwallsportsmedia.co.uk/2022/05/15/gallery-cornwall-rlfc-0-20-west-wales-raiders/

What an excessively negative summary that is. I thought the game was a cracker and a decent 85,000 in attendance. It may have slipped in some people 's opinion but it still has plenty of support, a place in the game and will continue to do so.

Whoever gets the patent will surely be flushed with success.

I don't know if yourself or the nephews would be interested in highlights of this FA Cup final or other matches but this is where I go. I appreciate you may not watch the cup but type Manchester City in the search box if you miss one of their games: https://highlightsfootball.net/?s=liverpool

LFC have to concentrate on the Champions League final. Players need to go to that final as fresh as possible. RM have already won their league and are going to be more rested. Liverpool can’t go into the CL final jaded. If Liverpool can win the last league fixtures with a second string side, great but they still need MC to implode, which is highly unlikely.

Being outplayed another, albeit lesser reason.

Josef, could you do me a favour? The next time you see your nephews give them a high five each from me in NZ? Ta.

I'm not averse to the occasional gin myself.

And here’s me thinking you’re all about Gin.

Wine drinkers, do you have a preference, white or red. NZ specialises in white (Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc especially) but white doesn’t do my digestion any favours but red is another story. I tend to drink Aussie reds, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlots and Shiraz I enjoy. I drink little and often.

We have three bar stools at our breakfast bar.

To be in the top two in all four competitions they competed in is a huge achievement. On that basis a success. However, to only win one of those would be disappointing having done the hard work to get to that situation.