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  1. Neighbours? What a huge deal that was....Angry Anderson on Top of the Pops. Frisky likes to make out the Aussies are irrelevant, deliberately overlooking how much stuff on TV he (and we) have consumed from them growing up...Henderson Kids, Home and Away, Round the Twist, Halfway across the galaxy and turn left, Heartbreak High...and Frisky’s personal favourite, Prisoner Cell Block H.
  2. SL viewing figures here would dwarf the NRL, which is a shame after what I’ve seen this season in my first time watching the game in Aus. The NRL has been a godsend in that I haven’t seen rugby (either code) this good in ages. Admittedly I really only watch the top NRL sides similar to what I’ve done with Barcelona over many years (extending from Ronaldo, to Rivaldo, to Ronaldinho, to Messi (as well as Xavi and co.) lining out for them...haven’t watched Barca in a while as they are currently skint and without a superstar). To watch Cleary run a game for Penrith is unlike anything on offer in SL. Melbourne are equally as good (really tiny margins between them that could go either way). These two play a different game. The standard among the next three or four teams below these two is still high quality. The speed and execution of plays is on another level to SL. The PTB happens quickly, attacks are swift, there is a slickness to the way the game is played there. If they transported their product here stars would be created in the UK.
  3. He has a strange hybrid. The absolute worst has to be Peter Lovenkrands (what is it about Danes?) who sounds more Scottish than many Scots. There’s not even a hint of Danish in his speech. Just googled his name and unsurprisingly accent appears as the fourth option. Came across this story where a Newcastle teammate thought he was Scottish until he spoke to another Dane. https://insidefutbol.com/2016/10/19/newcastle-team-mate-thought-i-was-scottish-until-i-spoke-to-nicklas-bendtner-peter-lovenkrands/309918/
  4. Fair shout. Just this Aussie telling us we should learn something, when no geographic location in a name is a new thing for them (of the current NrL teams anyway). One of the folks at the club defended the name saying “who doesn’t love a dolphin?”, true, but sport is tribal (I assume it’s no different in Aus), and not having something a bit more specific than just “the Dolphins” might not be as appealing as they hope.
  5. “English clubs could learn something here” Not having your location in your name is not an Aussie concept. I’d hazard a guess and say Arsenal, an English club, is the most famous sports club on the planet without a location in its name. This idea is brand new to the NRL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rugby_League#Current_clubs To go from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcliffe_Dolphins to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dolphins_(NRL) It looks bereft of an identity. The name Dolphins is too common. It’s also the nickname of a much more famous entity. It highlights another issue (to me anyway) which is the Americanisation of Aussie team names (and names in the rugby codes here), but at least if it was say North Brisbane Dolphins, it would at least have an Australian feel, and also say a lot more of who they are.
  6. “The Dolphins”. It’s a strange one. Not having their geographic location in their name is amorphous as Martyn says. Arsenal don’t have their location in their name either, but Arsenal is instantly identifiable as it’s a unique name for a club. Dolphins is not.
  7. Those grass areas for fans to lay on look fine. Much better that than the dull, carbon copy stadiums with no character. Bournemouth had a capacity of just over 11k when they were in the Premier League. They were miles smaller than everyone else (think Fulham was next smallest with 19k) but it was never an issue.
  8. Putting a figure on it to compare interest: The 2019 NRL final article on Wikipedia got 21.1k views over three days (day before, day of, and day after final) The 2020 WCC article on Wikipedia got 3.5k views over three days (day before, day of, and day after final) So just over 6 times the interest for the NRL final.
  9. But what if it’s only wafer thin?
  10. They do in every other sport. Your comment is insular in itself. It’s well documented Aussies see sport as their major chance to shine on the international stage. Ashes series is huge (MCG on Boxing Day), RU tests vs NZ (when RU was popular there), Aus vs Italy in the ‘06 FIFA World Cup (over 4 million viewership for a match in the early morning), every Olympics (beating GB in the medal table being a subject in the media, which they haven’t accomplished in ages now), Aussies in boxing (Tyszu vs Hatton in Manchester), Aussies in tennis (Wimbledon), golf (Greg Norman in the Open). The issue in RL is they are so far ahead that as the NRL is the best, to win it makes you the best. The WCC is a nice tick, but that’s it. Think of it as an After Eight after a three course meal. If the Premier League was a RL competition, with Anfield, Old Trafford, Emirates etc. as RL stadiums, with the money and playing pool to match, you can be sure as hell the Aussies would be looking up here more often. Realistically speaking, Penrith and Melbourne would give any team in SL a hiding. The NRL is not only the best RL competition by a distance but the best by a long way in both codes. The standard is exceptional.
  11. america is a self absorbed (“me me me”), look after number one, screw you society. One result of this narcissistic trait is access to basic healthcare is not based on clinical need, but ability to pay. There is no care for others (classic narcissism), it’s all about the self. This narcissism and focus on the self is seen in their “white saviour” films and literature, the best example of which is their ‘most beloved national book’, To Kill a Mockingbird, a book that sums up a self absorbed, I’m only interested in myself, national ethos. By not caring about others and focusing on oneself, this has resulted in Stan Brock (British philanthropist) who set up Remote Area Medical (initially for the third world) but ultimately focused much of their operations in america to save millions there (many of whom were non white, of course) who could not afford healthcare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brock_(philanthropist) Anything that comes out of there regarding views on sport should be dismissed like everything else. Their “franchises” (that move around at the drop of a hat) are vehicles for owners to make money; the owners also lift the bleedin trophy first. The concept of teams being for the community doesn’t exist there.
  12. Not being funny like, but the highest RL attendance in England is always going to be the highest in Europe. It looked fine, and yeah those two issues were genuine factors in the crowd.
  13. Contrasting an amateur game with a professional one is a non starter. Regardless of whether Evans and Collins have any credibility (I think they do) what they say correlates to what I’ve seen. I haven’t used a stop watch to compare how long each PTB takes in the NRL and SL but play looks much faster in the former. And on women’s RL, I was comparing it to women’s football. Comparatively speaking, a passing sequence lasts longer in RL. They are in a straight line, no more than a few yards apart, and use their hands to throw and catch the ball. Women’s footballers are spread throughout the field, and have to use to their foot to pass and control the ball.
  14. Why would you compare an amateur competition (which I assume the CRL is?) to the two pro leagues in the sport? The crazy gang (Wimbledon of Vinnie Jones and co.) who spent 90 minutes booting the ball in the air, I’m not going to compare them to a local Sunday league team in order to have a new found appreciation of their methods. Mark Evans mentioned the wrestle, saying it’s riskier to do it in the NRL (penalised more?) and the game has speeded up. You see loads of sniping type play, defences out of position as they don’t get time to reset, in complete contrast to SL.
  15. You aren’t interested in doing anything but sticking your head in the sand and pretending all is well. RL has the potential to be very successful. Its direct competitor RU has shot itself in the foot by its changes (a major one which Mark Evans touches on in the podcast with “11 stone players now at least 14 stone”). There is a gap for RL to exploit. As I said the Aussies are going mental at the Covid situation there. One person in a region gets a positive result and it makes the news. The situation here is completely different. In any case I think the biggest opportunity for change in RL is in the hands of those who run RL here, not Australia. 7k for Wigan vs Leeds in a play off game. And the match itself itself was fitting. In almost every NRL game I’ve seen this season an individual has stood out. The RL follower whose post I pasted above described RL in England as once being like this, with lots of open, broken play which attacking players could exploit. Now you have players holding on forever, allowing their defence to re-organise.
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