Players who could/should have been great.
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Mumby Magic
, Sep 29 2010 11:02 AM
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#41
Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:00 PM
Andy Lynch
Now then, it's a race between Sandie....and Fairburn....and the little man is in........yeees he's in.
I, just like those Castleford supporters felt that the ball should have gone to David Plange but he put the bit betwen his teeth...and it was a try
Kevin Ward - best player I have ever seen

I, just like those Castleford supporters felt that the ball should have gone to David Plange but he put the bit betwen his teeth...and it was a try
Kevin Ward - best player I have ever seen
The real Mick Gledhill is what you see on here, a Bradford fan ........, but deep down knows that Bradford are just not good enough to challenge the likes of Leeds & St Helens.
#42
Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:12 PM
Two players I saw come through the junior grades who had good careers but I thought could've been great were Paul Lyman and Ian Smales.
#43
Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:31 PM
Thinking back to some of Wigans kids from a few years back;
Stuart Fisher
Andy Grundy and
Simon Lewis
Always shone at alliance level and looked like they could do a job but probably held on to the Wigan dream a couple of years longer than they should and whilst I saw Fisher and Grundy turn out for Chorley they were shadows of the players they could have been.
Neil Baynes is another, if he'd shed a few pounds and got his act together could have been a decent prop.
Stuart Fisher
Andy Grundy and
Simon Lewis
Always shone at alliance level and looked like they could do a job but probably held on to the Wigan dream a couple of years longer than they should and whilst I saw Fisher and Grundy turn out for Chorley they were shadows of the players they could have been.
Neil Baynes is another, if he'd shed a few pounds and got his act together could have been a decent prop.
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#44
Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:35 PM
QUOTE (Derwent @ Sep 29 2010, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Barry Williams had everything you'd ever want in a loose forward. Exceptional pace, brute strength, excellent hands and a sublime kicking game. He could have been one of the best forwards in the world. Unfortunately he had neither the dedication or commitment and never came close to fulfilling his potential.
Another one that springs to mind is a lad called Shaun Boylan, who was an extremely talented stand off from the Wigan area. He played a few games for Workington on amateur forms when Billy McGinty was our coach and he was absolutely outstanding on the pitch. However, lets just say he was 'a bit of a lad' off the field which severely hampered his progression in the game....
Another one that springs to mind is a lad called Shaun Boylan, who was an extremely talented stand off from the Wigan area. He played a few games for Workington on amateur forms when Billy McGinty was our coach and he was absolutely outstanding on the pitch. However, lets just say he was 'a bit of a lad' off the field which severely hampered his progression in the game....
Barry used to really wind me up, as you say an outrageously talented player that simply wasn`t that bothered about the game. Such an annoying thing to see. I remember Boylan too, he set off like a house on fire for us and looked like a real steal, then we saw why he hadn`t been picked up by any other team.
#45
Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:44 PM
QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Sep 29 2010, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My memory is a bit hazy about the sequence of events, but basically:-
- twenty or so games under Peter Fox as a teenager; first choice goalkicker and elusive runner
- released by Brian Smith
- went to RU but never really made it
- twenty or so games under Peter Fox as a teenager; first choice goalkicker and elusive runner
- released by Brian Smith
- went to RU but never really made it
Don't think he played first team Wolford. You're right about Daio Powell. Made his debut season when we nearly got relegated so Fox went for more established players. Speaking of that era Phil Hepworth was a good player and played about 8 games at hooker despite being a loose forward and did a stirling job. (mid 90's)
#46
Posted 29 September 2010 - 05:01 PM
I read somewhere that Marcus Vassilokopolous(?) was awesome as a junior and remember him making his Leeds debut at 16. He never really established himself.
I also watched Graham Holroyd as a teenager break into the Leeds team and although he had a decent career he had looked like a potentially great player.
Scott Moore still has time on his side but he hasn't lived up to the potential he showed at 16/17.
Dale Cardoza, when he signed for the Academy at Eagles, was very highly rated but never developed.
And I'll second Nigel Wright. I saw him destroy Eagles at Elland Road in a Yorks Cup Final when he was still a teenager. He had everything you need to be a great stand off.
I also watched Graham Holroyd as a teenager break into the Leeds team and although he had a decent career he had looked like a potentially great player.
Scott Moore still has time on his side but he hasn't lived up to the potential he showed at 16/17.
Dale Cardoza, when he signed for the Academy at Eagles, was very highly rated but never developed.
And I'll second Nigel Wright. I saw him destroy Eagles at Elland Road in a Yorks Cup Final when he was still a teenager. He had everything you need to be a great stand off.
#47
Posted 29 September 2010 - 05:04 PM
QUOTE (Sam79 @ Sep 29 2010, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read somewhere that Marcus Vassilokopolous(?) was awesome as a junior and remember him making his Leeds debut at 16. He never really established himself.
He played for the USA last week against Canada. I believe he's 34 years young now.
#48
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:10 PM
QUOTE (JackBauer @ Sep 29 2010, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tony Myler was great. To even talk about Nigel Wright in the same breath is crazy.
Tony Myler had the best hands you could ever wish to see and, if it wasn't for his unluckiness with injuries he would have been an all time great.
His one spell in Australia with Balmain had the Aussies drooling and, if he'd been able to play more games, they would have been asking Wally who? when talking about great stand-offs.
Tony Myler is the God of stand-offs - and please don't anyone talk about Shaun Edwards or Garry Schofield as being fit to lace his boots.
Tony Myler had the best hands you could ever wish to see and, if it wasn't for his unluckiness with injuries he would have been an all time great.
His one spell in Australia with Balmain had the Aussies drooling and, if he'd been able to play more games, they would have been asking Wally who? when talking about great stand-offs.
Tony Myler is the God of stand-offs - and please don't anyone talk about Shaun Edwards or Garry Schofield as being fit to lace his boots.
ive seen a few no6s but tony myler was the king! what about vince fawcett at leeds?
#49
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:12 PM
QUOTE (iangidds @ Sep 29 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ive seen a few no6s but tony myler was the king! what about vince fawcett at leeds?
Forgot about Vince,his son was in the academy set up at Leeds don't know if he still is.
Edited by terrywebbisgod, 29 September 2010 - 06:16 PM.
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#50
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:16 PM
QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 29 2010, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Forgot about Vince,his son is/was in the academy set up at Leeds.
vince played in a game against widnes which was apure fight from start to finish, it left huw waddel (whos another) eating his food through a straw!
#51
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:18 PM
QUOTE (iangidds @ Sep 29 2010, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
vince played in a game against widnes which was apure fight from start to finish, it left huw waddel (whos another) eating his food through a straw!
Played junior rugby with Vince,top lad.Always thought Hughie fulfilled his potential though.
Edited by terrywebbisgod, 29 September 2010 - 06:19 PM.
Leeds Rhinos,STILL the only Grand Final winning club NOT to have cheated the salary cap.WCC Champions 2012.
#52
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:21 PM
QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 29 2010, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Played junior rugby with Vince,top lad.Always thought Hughie fulfilled his potential though.
Mabe he did , he was very limited imo
#53
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:22 PM
QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 29 2010, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Played junior rugby with Vince,top lad.Always thought Hughie fulfilled his potential though.
Vince was superb at Town for his first season and half, he was unstoppable at times. I remember we played away to Wigan and he tore their defence apart on his own, also was all over Kevin Iro in our first match bag in the big time. So much so they Leeds made sure he left the field early, if you know what I mean. I think he went to play for Parramatta and jobbed about for a few seasons didnt he?
#54
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:28 PM
QUOTE (iangidds @ Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mabe he did , he was very limited imo
Hughie did all that was asked of him,can't do any more really can he?
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#55
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:30 PM
QUOTE (dkw @ Sep 29 2010, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vince was superb at Town for his first season and half, he was unstoppable at times. I remember we played away to Wigan and he tore their defence apart on his own, also was all over Kevin Iro in our first match bag in the big time. So much so they Leeds made sure he left the field early, if you know what I mean. I think he went to play for Parramatta and jobbed about for a few seasons didnt he?
I don't know ,lost touch with him after he left Leeds.
Leeds Rhinos,STILL the only Grand Final winning club NOT to have cheated the salary cap.WCC Champions 2012.
#56
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:41 PM
Danny Brough.
He should be playing for England in the summer and would be if he wasn't such a liability off the field meaning he moves around a lot.
His kicking game would give us such a boost, especially when it's so dire usually against the Aussies.
He should be playing for England in the summer and would be if he wasn't such a liability off the field meaning he moves around a lot.
His kicking game would give us such a boost, especially when it's so dire usually against the Aussies.
#57
Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:43 PM
QUOTE (iangidds @ Sep 29 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ive seen a few no6s but tony myler was the king! what about vince fawcett at leeds?
He was a very good player. But he wasn't as good as John Woods. I haven't seen a no 6 as good as John Woods, I include John Holmes, David Topliss, Roger Millward, John Newlove and John Joyner in that assessment
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#58
Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:09 PM
bobby goulding
dwayne west
kevin penny
dwayne west
kevin penny
#59
Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Mumby Magic @ Sep 29 2010, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are quite a few that spring to mind but I'll set the ball rolling:
Mick Shaw - Yes THAT Mick Shaw that kept Jimmy Lowes out of the Leeds side of the mid 90's and contributed to Lowes joining the Bulls. He was a good little player but what happened???
Mick Nanyn - I enjoy watching Nanyn in the lower leagues but he has never cut the mustard at SL level. Stong, good goal kicker he could have achieved more.
Adam Hughes - Another head scratcher but I know he has been ridiculed in the past on here but when ever I saw him he was scoring 80m tries for fun.
Last for now - Karle Hammond - Thought he had it all at one stage, balance, deceptive pace, good passer but didn't he retire at 29? What did happen to him?Will throw a few more in and some from the Bulls too.
Mick Shaw - Yes THAT Mick Shaw that kept Jimmy Lowes out of the Leeds side of the mid 90's and contributed to Lowes joining the Bulls. He was a good little player but what happened???
Mick Nanyn - I enjoy watching Nanyn in the lower leagues but he has never cut the mustard at SL level. Stong, good goal kicker he could have achieved more.
Adam Hughes - Another head scratcher but I know he has been ridiculed in the past on here but when ever I saw him he was scoring 80m tries for fun.
Last for now - Karle Hammond - Thought he had it all at one stage, balance, deceptive pace, good passer but didn't he retire at 29? What did happen to him?Will throw a few more in and some from the Bulls too.
Now living in Australia I believe, and has been there for quite some time.
#60
Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:25 PM
Mid 1990s Gareth Stephens. Doug Laughton then coach of Leeds (IIRC preferring the last knockings of an aging Andy Gregory)sold him to Cas
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