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Middleton Bull

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#3047760 Saracens - No Irish Need Apply

Posted by Middleton Bull on Yesterday, 05:43 PM

How very un-diverse!

 

Can you imagine Man Utd stopping anyone with a cockney accent applying for tickets - they'd lose 90% of their fan base!




#3045915 glasgow v toulouse

Posted by Middleton Bull on 16 December 2014 - 01:03 PM

15th June 2007 at the Willows I saw us lose to Salford 2 kicks and a field goal to a kick.......it may well have been the cheap ale, but I enjoyed myself immensely

It's quite telling that you remember the date.  That is probably because in Rugby it is such a rarity.  It can, when it happens on such rare occasions, be quite compelling.  When it becomes almost the accepted norm, it can, on most occasions, become very tedious.




#3045716 BBC Sport - Burgess love in

Posted by Middleton Bull on 15 December 2014 - 10:09 PM

I'm not sure I get this whole BBC bias thing. The only RU the BBC has is the 6 nations, they obviously hype that to get viewers. Club rugby might not exist for them. The one sport they are obsessed about is football, which takes up about 90% of sports coverage. They don't mention RL much because they haven't got much of it. I don't think it is any more sinister than that

Recently they had the rights to and televised the NZ v England Rugby Four Nations semi final.  On the same day at Twickers, England were playing NZ at union in a friendly for which Sky had the broadcasting rights and televised.  Guess which game the BRUBC promoted at the expense of the other?




#3045330 Rugby League virtually ignored at SPOTY - moans here please

Posted by Middleton Bull on 15 December 2014 - 07:12 AM

Who was the ginger guy (looks a bit like James Hewitt) sat next to royalty? ;)




#3044503 BBC Sport - Burgess love in

Posted by Middleton Bull on 13 December 2014 - 01:10 PM

I assume the BBC coverage was similar when Jonathan Davies joined Widnes.

Iirc they even had rights to Club RL at that time so clearly in their interests to do so.

The difference there was that Jonathan Davies received plenty of media coverage and plaudits whilst still a union player.  In the case of Sam and Jason Robinson, the media (in this country) simply didn't recognise them, or report on them, as their superb athletic abilities deserved, until they had that union connection.  They simply didn't exist until they were somehow legitimised by union.




#3043967 Why, Why, Why...............?

Posted by Middleton Bull on 12 December 2014 - 08:18 AM

God Save the Queen also encourages superstition and anti-democratic ideology.

It also encourages soporific tendencies




#3043193 Huddersfield Great, Challenge Cup Winner, Wanganui Man, All Black, Athlete, R...

Posted by Middleton Bull on 09 December 2014 - 10:40 PM

The great strides haven't been as a result of a removal of the Rugby Union ban as far as I can see. Which area of growth in Rugby League has benefited from the removal of the ban that you can see? Note I am only meaning the ban on players being involved with Rugby Union after an involvement with Rugby League not any other aspects of anti-Rugby League behaviou by people involved in Rugby Union. 

So the armed forces ban and the ban in higher education establishments didn't exist?  Get a grip Dudley, sorry Gosman.




#3042997 Hooker, a misomer?

Posted by Middleton Bull on 09 December 2014 - 05:50 PM

ooo get you. Some packs will attempt to win the ball by pushing over the ball, some will hook. I watched a few games at the weekend and there was a mixture of tactics. It is common but hooking is sill part of the game and will depend on the strength of your pack. If you choose not to hook and don't get a good shove on then you are likely to lose the scrum against the head. This happened a few times a the weekend.

I take offence when you say my post is complete nonsense when clearly it is not.

###### it. Tired of being insulted on here for attempting to put across things using different perspective and to educate a little when most of the posters post a steady stream of absolute BS. If you lot are unhappy with the way things are with RL, it's place in society and the media perhaps take a long look at yourselves.

That is quite an overreaction, even for you Severus.  Why throw your toys out of the pram just because someone disagrees with you? Presumably, you thought it quite acceptable the other day to imply that a RL fan was lying when he recounted the bigotry he experienced at school at the hands of a union biased sports master.  Yet, as soon as someone challenges your knowledge of union, you cry like a baby  You need to man up a little.

 

This is a microcosm of what us Leaguie's have to endure from union in the big bad world - you like to dish it out but you simply cannot take any criticism yourselves.

 

FWIW I hope you don't leave the forum in some hissy fit.  Even though we are obviously poles apart in our views, I do like to read your union-centric views. 




#3042914 Threat of insolvency for ARU

Posted by Middleton Bull on 09 December 2014 - 03:01 PM

I'm not sure why you're being precious now.

? - Sorry Baldrick, not got a clue what you are talking about.




#3042824 Threat of insolvency for ARU

Posted by Middleton Bull on 09 December 2014 - 12:26 PM

 'and then they'd sit back and watch the French Top14 and Japanese clubs go to town on the NRL.'

 

Can you spell out why you think that would necessarily follow

He's just setting out his views as an avid and devoted RL fan :ph34r:




#3041516 Burgess already bored, says Bath coach

Posted by Middleton Bull on 05 December 2014 - 05:41 PM

Possibly you have to know Greenwood and what he is like to appreciate where he is coming from and his sense of humour. I think he is about as far as you can be from being a Stephen Jones type of reporter with his attitude to RL but the reaction on here you would think he was Jones's evil brother.

 

Greenwood is very complementary about RL and I honestly do not believe that this article was designed to denigrate RL or Sam.

 

I saw Sam play, albeit briefly, last week and he looked very keen, almost too keen to make an impression. I think Greenwood is giving him a few pointers, which no doubt as you say the coaches at Bath will also be working on.

 

 

Possibly you have to know Greenwood and what he is like to appreciate where he is coming from and his sense of humour. I think he is about as far as you can be from being a Stephen Jones type of reporter with his attitude to RL but the reaction on here you would think he was Jones's evil brother.

 

Greenwood is very complementary about RL and I honestly do not believe that this article was designed to denigrate RL or Sam.

 

I saw Sam play, albeit briefly, last week and he looked very keen, almost too keen to make an impression. I think Greenwood is giving him a few pointers, which no doubt as you say the coaches at Bath will also be working on.

Do you actually read other people's posts before responding in your predictably defensive and biased way?  We all know that Sam has a lot to learn but he won't learn it from such condescending newspaper articles.  Most of us know Greenwood and I genuinely believe he is ok.  I even think that if he met SB man to man he could usefully pass on some of his experience as a union centre.  However, he has let himself down very badly with this pompous drivel.  The article is very Stephe Jones-esque.  Much of what he is trying to "teach" SB has actually come from League anyway.  Trying to tell SB how to pass and how to approach a game in terms of attitude just beggars belief.  Does he think he just rolled up for his RL games without focus or training?  The fact that you are unable to see how pompous the article is would suggest you share a similar pompous attitude.  What is it about union that produces such arrogance in its aficionado's? 




#3041239 Burgess already bored, says Bath coach

Posted by Middleton Bull on 05 December 2014 - 07:20 AM

It does and still the  whiff of bovine stings the nostrils..

I generally like Greenwood - he is one of the more enlightened union bods.  Some of what he says in the article also makes for reasonable advice, but the overall tone of the article is one of condescension and is vomit inducing in the extreme.  Who the hell does he think he is talking to?  Sam is a world class "rugby" player.  Yes, he has a lot of new techniques to learn but Greenwood, in this article, just comes across as saying, "hey Leaguie, you might think you can play rugby but union is much more complex and demanding and you will be totally out of your depth....."  Telling Sam how and when to pass, how to run, blitz defence - do me a favour.  Perhaps it is Sam who should actually be telling his union team mates how to do those things.  The article just comes across as a point scoring exercise for union, in an attempt to detract from the fact that a mere League player is commanding such excitement in the media.  He mentioned somewhere that he is not trying to teach his granny to suck eggs.  That is exactly what he is trying to do.




#3040536 The old Chestnut for Christmas

Posted by Middleton Bull on 03 December 2014 - 12:54 PM

It seems some people just want to be outraged which I will never understand.

 

On here people talk about league by calling it rugby, on union programs/bulletins/commentary/etc they refer to their game as rugby also.

 

I honestly doubt there are many people who are genuinely confused about which code is being discussed. With just the slightest grasp of what they are watching, reading or listening to it's pretty obvious 99% of the time. 

 

I certainly have no gripe with Chris or whomever referring to their code as 'rugby', there is no ownership of the name (unlike for the Rugby World Cup which is a trademark registered by RU), I am certainly not going to get my knickers in a twist over this. Up north rugby normally means league, elsewhere it more commonly refers to union. Not a big deal IMHO.

That is done purposely to ram home the point to some of the more condescending union fans who frequent this Rugby fans forum.  I have no issue with union referring to just "rugby" in the right context / setting.  The problem arises when you get high profile union jerks like Steve Diamond, for example, deliberately trying to undermine Rugby by claiming that Sale Cuckoo's are  the "only professional rugby team" in the north west of England. Toss and pot spring to mind.




#3040363 Union World Cup Preview in Telegraph

Posted by Middleton Bull on 02 December 2014 - 10:44 PM

By breaking things down to their component parts you lose the overall behaviour of a system. Despite what some on here may say, RU is a complex game with lots of variables, just saying 'hoof it into touch' is showing a total lack of understanding of the game. Sometimes you may not understand why a particular tactic is being used, that doesn't mean that it is the wrong tactic for a particular situation

 

 

 

That old cliché trotted out yet again with such practiced condescension.  Union is chess to Rugby's draughts blah, blah, blah - and we all know how exciting chess is as a spectator sport ;) . 

 

The one thing our patronising union cousins always fail to explain though is why, if the ponderous code is so complex, has it taken, and continues to take, coaches from the simple sport of Rugby to show them how to play their own game properly?  :P




#3039933 Two carries in 17mins is enough to be considered international representation

Posted by Middleton Bull on 01 December 2014 - 08:22 PM

I don't know enough about RU to say who is good or bad but it doesn't follow that a supremely talented RL player will flourish in RU.

 

Come to think of it, Burgess is one of the few English RU players I know of at present...haven't a clue who is in the England team. Is Chris Bradshaw one?

I think there is a prince obelisk on the wing but apart from that.............  Apparently, he scored a "wonder try" in 1932 and it was shown almost weekly on the BBC from the BBC's inception in 1937 until it was succeeded by the Barbarian's "wonder try" in 1973, which has also been shown weekly by the BBC ever since.  Wigan scored the greatest ever union try at Twickers in 1996 but it has never been shown by the BBC. :onthequiet: