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Middleton Bull

Member Since 04 May 2004
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#2996768 RU Law Trials - RFU Trials

Posted by Middleton Bull on 16 September 2014 - 04:48 PM

Sorry, I can't see any difference - give us a clue. ;)

#2996179 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by Middleton Bull on 15 September 2014 - 07:11 PM

Seeing as we invented tackling that should not be a problem  :tongue:

Yeah that's right because Wigan, Bradford, Leeds, Hull etc. didn't exist before 1895.   :P


I remember Phil Larder saying how he had to teach the England union team how to tackle when he took over defensive duties in the nineties.  He had them all.using the schoolboy basic technique of kneeling down and going through the slow motion of tackling   One of the world's top union teams unable to tackle properly!!!!!  A very sad state of affairs.

#2995312 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by Middleton Bull on 14 September 2014 - 05:17 PM

Oh I see, its fine for you to troll and try to denigrate RL but not ok for me to respond?


Because that happens in the national and international media, many union fans think it is acceptable.  They really don't know any different.  Unfortunately, arrogance and condescension plays a big part in the union psyche bacause it has been allowed to get away with it pretty much unchallenged for 119 years..

#2994704 25k for Wallabies last week, 14k today v Arg ... Ouch

Posted by Middleton Bull on 13 September 2014 - 02:43 PM

This has really got to be hurting the ARU's coffers. No matter how you dress it up interest in RU in Australia must be at its lowest for 20 years. Apparently today's crowd of 14k for the Argentina game was the lowest this century and it looked pretty bad. With both the NRL and the AFL having $1b TV deals and the rise of A-League soccer - Unionites in Australia must be worried about the future. There doesn't seem to be any kind of cash cow on the horizon.



John O'Neil's disgusting words are coming back to haunt him.  When he said he wanted to see Rugby wiped off the face of the planet in 10 years time little did he know that it would be his own code that would be struggling in his native land.

#2993975 RU is far from perfect

Posted by Middleton Bull on 12 September 2014 - 01:15 PM

We may have been over it time and time again but that still doesn't mean you are right ;). Is there any time in the process of the PTB when the tackler cannot compete for possession?

Is there ever a time in the process of the PTB when the ball carrier would not commit a knock-on if he fumbled or dropped the ball?  Answer - no, because the ball isn't dead!

#2993680 RU is far from perfect

Posted by Middleton Bull on 12 September 2014 - 07:27 AM

This highlights something that I think RL has lost over the years. There's very much a philosophy that teams take it in turns with the ball as opposed to having to earn possession and work to keep it.

Union does pride itself on this possession thing.  I have seen instances of 27 consecutive phases of retained possession where the attacking team has either moved forward just a few yards, or actually lost ground, at which point the scrum half or stand off simply puts up an aimless kick to the opposition for them to take possession.  Give me 6 tackles any day.

#2993638 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by Middleton Bull on 12 September 2014 - 06:11 AM

Welcome to our world.

Wow!!!!!  That is the biggest irony since Iron Man's wife, ironed her iron chastity belt during the Iron Age.

#2992218 "And RU just keeps getting more and more popular"

Posted by Middleton Bull on 10 September 2014 - 12:07 PM

You seem to be getting the two items confused. Spectators do matter, and RU is getting plenty of those in many countries and these crowds are growing. BUT as I stated the majority of the countries on the planet play regular RU fixtures and are ranked accordingly by the global governing body.


Hypothetically, by your confused definition, a team sport played in every country on the planet would not be considered a global sport if it didn't get big crowds. Very odd indeed. 


Fishing is a pretty popular sport, with huge global participation but as far as I am aware the crowds are pathetic in size. Does this mean it doesn't qualify as a global sport?

What is this obsession with union wanting to be called / considered a global sport?  You sound very, very needy.  You have already admitted that bigger doesn't equal better, so why all this immature willy waggling?  I bet you drive a big car.... :P

#2990675 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by Middleton Bull on 08 September 2014 - 11:29 AM

All this talk by union fans about popularity being a direct measure of the quality of a sport is somewhat strange.  By their own measure, and by implication, they are demonstrating that union, and of course rugby, is completely inferior to association football both in this country and internationally.   I would obviously disagree, but it would be good to hear how our union friends reconcile this little paradigm that they have created.  So, a couple of questions to the union posters::

  • Do you believe that union is better than League simply based on the premise that it generally has more fans internationally?
  • If yes, do you accept that, by extension, association football is far and away superior to union?
  • If no to the last question, do you then accept that the is vaccuous?
  • If no to the last question, do you accept that you obviously don't know what you are talking about?

As a footnote, I recall a couple of years ago a union hack in Australia wrote an article explaining that declining attendances in Australian union somehow actually proved that it was better than League!

#2990473 RUWC 2015

Posted by Middleton Bull on 08 September 2014 - 06:02 AM

Where's it being played?

In heaven of course

#2989665 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by Middleton Bull on 07 September 2014 - 12:08 AM

And RU just keeps on getting more and more popular.


Meanwhile league trudges along with some bitter complaining and a stoic determination never to change despite the lack of interest from the majority of the planet's population  :tongue:

Bitter complaining???

Stoic determination never to change???

Union (by implication) of interest to the majority of the planet's population???


Awesomely ignorant

#2989664 Rah rah season underway

Posted by Middleton Bull on 07 September 2014 - 12:03 AM

Cracking start to the season, bonus point win and three tries from Goneva.


Three wingers scoring hat-tricks on the opening weekend and lots of tries all around. Boring boring kick and clap!!!

Not sure why you specifically mentioned try's - union fans have stated, de facto, that try's aren't important.  From what I've read, the more balanced union fans would probably suggest that the season start has been somewhat of a mixed bag, rather than cracking.

#2987339 Koukash update?

Posted by Middleton Bull on 02 September 2014 - 08:30 PM

Ticketing and access are ongoing problems at the AJ Bell. Koukash has bought some RU lads, but they are more use as stewards in the car park.

I heard that he has purchased one of the Sale props for his groundsman to use as a roller!

#2987308 Koukash update?

Posted by Middleton Bull on 02 September 2014 - 07:29 PM


Back in February the Koukash fellow up at Salford was telling us how he was after some top RU stars to improve his squad. I was just reading that Salford now have pretty much no chance of making the play offs in SL so does anyone know who he is planning on signing from RU to follow through with his grand claim?


The only recent stories I can find is Koukash saying how badly he has been let down by his team with their recent performance and how he wants to buy an NRL club next.


It obviously appears that he couldn't actually find anyone in union that would / could improve his squad ;)


Anyway, come on TT, leave the good doctor alone.  I remember you got very upset when he made that announcement,  No point in upsetting yourself all over again :P

#2986386 Opinion: Rugby League exposes its own Achilles heel again

Posted by Middleton Bull on 01 September 2014 - 06:58 AM

I thought you said you knew what proper means. Do you need that link again?

Oh dear, still no apology and instead resorting to sarcasm.  You are rapidly turning into our old friend Duff Duff.  Obviously your insult to RL fans still stands.  Nice.