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Middleton Bull

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#2979906 Aus v NZ

Posted by Middleton Bull on 19 August 2014 - 10:12 AM

Is there a wiki of cliches, prejudices and mistruths that RL fans dip into to denigrate RU whenever they are losing an argument? Its strange that some RL fans seem conditioned to continually slag of RU at every opportunity. If its not your cup of tea why waste the energy?

It's not pleasant is it.  Just imagine that magnified a million times by the national and international media and you might just get a glimpse of what League fans have had to suffer for over a century

#2979755 Aus v NZ

Posted by Middleton Bull on 18 August 2014 - 08:30 PM

It was pretty much on a par with a friendly RU game between the All Blacks and Ireland around the same time. Having watched both games I preferred the RU game as I thought there were better skills on show and the ABs won by superior attack whereas the England league side went to sleep at the end of the game which resulted in them losing in the dying minutes to the Kiwis.

Quelle surprise!

#2979090 Aus v NZ

Posted by Middleton Bull on 17 August 2014 - 06:51 PM

Judging by the RL board on here you could say the same about RL fans.

Definitely agree - most RL fans dislike union too.

#2978864 Aus v NZ

Posted by Middleton Bull on 17 August 2014 - 04:36 PM

From all accounts it was a poor game.

From all accounts many union posters on this forum seem to dislike union

#2978621 Aus v NZ

Posted by Middleton Bull on 17 August 2014 - 09:45 AM

Australia just beat France 3-0 in a series. They lost to England last year after an obvious obstruction was allowed and England scored. They've made Wales their ##### for a decade now. Ireland? Depends on which Ireland turns up.


NZ also just beat England in a 3 test series. 


Fact is, this kind of game is an aberration in SH but the norm in the NH. 

Now, now, you union guys stop arguing between yourselves about the ponderous code.  You'll have nothing left in the tank to denigrate RL. ;)

#2977384 New Aussie RU comp changes points scoring system

Posted by Middleton Bull on 14 August 2014 - 08:16 PM

Who is Willis? That is not name and I do not personally know anybody with that name. Stating something that actually happened as being impossible showed an obvious lack of objectivity and insight. Maybe if you stopped booing "the kicker" your critical thought processes would improve. 


#2976270 New Aussie RU comp changes points scoring system

Posted by Middleton Bull on 13 August 2014 - 06:14 AM


Interesting to see if what affect this has, if any.


From AP:


Australia’s revamped National Rugby Championship will kick off next week under experimental rules and with a new scoring system designed to encourage try-scoring over kicking for points.


The Australian Rugby Union launched the nine-team interstate competition Wednesday, a week ahead of the tournament opener between Brisbane City and the Sydney Stars. Queensland Country, Macquarie University North Harbour, Greater Sydney Rams, NSW Country Eagles, University of Canberra Vikings, Melbourne Rising and Perth Spirit are the other teams.
Organizers sought feedback from fans for the tournament and the No. 1 change suggested was in the points system.
In experimental variations approved by the International Rugby Board, the points for a penalty goal and dropped goal will be reduced from three points to two, and try conversions will be increased from two to three points. The other changes involve speeding up the game, with time limits to be implemented for setting scrums and lineouts, and taking shots at goal.


This must stop now.  It goes against everything union fans hold dear.  We are constantly reminded on this forum by our union guests that:


  • try's are unimportant
  • ball in play time is irrelevant
  • speed of play is irrelevant
  • penalties are extremely important and;
  • the set piece scrum / line out is paramount and essential to the game - providing orgasmic like enjoyment

Yet, all of the bullet points above are being explicitly attacked by these new experimental rules.  Either the fans are lieing, or the International union heirarchy is completely out of touch with what the fans want.  Which is it guys?

#2975259 Commentator - Limerick 7's - "Miracle Pass"

Posted by Middleton Bull on 11 August 2014 - 11:11 AM

And of course it never happens in any other sports 

It may very well do but I wasn't watching any other sports at the time.  Please accept my apologies, I didn't realise that union commentators were exempt from criticism.

#2972913 Krishnan Inu off to Stade Francais

Posted by Middleton Bull on 07 August 2014 - 11:33 AM

That's really nice of you TT and Bob8 to come on to a RL Fans Forum, insult your hosts and then pat each other on the back for doing so.  Perhaps the next time you go to a wedding you could roundly criticise the bride.  That should really get the both of you salivating.

#2965667 RU Pro12: Guinness named as league's new sponsor

Posted by Middleton Bull on 25 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

To be honest, it's a fairly open league in that regard, as there's such a wide range of ability on show in games, even amongst the good teams. Plenty of gaps when you've got a British Lion opposing some 18 year old academy player!

That British Lion needs to up his game then B)

#2960594 Bizarre RU like try scored by NZ Warriors against the Eels.

Posted by Middleton Bull on 17 July 2014 - 05:36 PM

The RU scrum is part of the play

Yes it is, much like the appendix is part of the human body

#2959481 Bizarre RU like try scored by NZ Warriors against the Eels.

Posted by Middleton Bull on 15 July 2014 - 02:17 PM

Not at all my friend, we have all those already in RU and more, I was suggesting if league teams decided to start coaching all basic rugby skills and including these in their games then RU fans may show a passing interest. Bringing back competitive scrums would be a good start to trying to draw in new fans to watch league and appeal to a wider audience.


I applaud this team for giving it a go even if the opposition were utterly clueless and seemed more interested in having a bit of a breather than scrummaging on their own put in.

I suppose it's all relative.  Union does indeed have small doses of the adjectives I used, whereas Rugby has more or less eradicated the need for those inordinately lengthy and convoluted ways to simply re-start play, so cherished by union.  The fear and paradox would be that introducing the overly complex set pieces might attract some union fans but it would possibly have the opposite effect on Rugby fans.

#2948760 I would sooner play for Wigan than England union team

Posted by Middleton Bull on 23 June 2014 - 06:52 PM

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Who has deemed him not good enough to play in the world cup? He played for England and has not played since last autumn due to injury. In the interim, he realised that League is a far better sport and reverted back to the handling game.[/quot If he thought he had a chance of playing in the world cup he would be still there

How do you know?  Are you a personal friend of his who knows exactly how he ticks?

#2948481 I would sooner play for Wigan than England union team

Posted by Middleton Bull on 23 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

What constitutes being a success in RU?.. 

It all depends on a players background.  If you are a born and bred union player then representing your club at first team level is a success.  If you are a convert from League you would need to single handedly win the union world cup on at least two occasions, scoring a hat trick of try's in each round of the tournament.  You would also need to publicly dismiss RL as parochial and praise union to the heavens whilst drinking a carafe of vintage aftershave.  That should get you a score of 6 or 7 from Wiggy.

#2946656 Joel Tomkins

Posted by Middleton Bull on 19 June 2014 - 06:29 AM

Joel found himself a long way down the pecking order for playing centre for England at RU so I guess it was inevitable that he return to RL before the 2015 RWC.


From what I saw of him he was certainly a talented player and given time he may have improved to a level where he could have challenged for a 1st team place in the England side but I wish him all the best for his return to playing league. I thought he might be a target for Koukash with all his blustering about signing high profile RU players but I guess we still need to wait to see who he is targeting for Salford.


I need to look up more about the RL salary cap rules, sounds like an interesting mix of regulations.

I am not sure why it would be inevitable that he returned to League.  He did challenge for a place in the England union side and got it - until he was injured!  Those other two ex-Leaguies Burrell and Eastmond also seem to fare very well in the centre for the national union side.  They will all possibly be taking a back seat though when Sam Burgess comes along.  Flippin' eck - there does seem to be a common theme here............