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  1. wiggler

    nobody worried?

    I am a little bemused by the takeover of the club by a seemingly faceless company that has no history of interest in RL? What exactly has the new owner bought? If it includes the ground then this could be prime building land. The land might be worth a lot more than keeping it as a rugby ground.
  2. wiggler

    no help from RFL

    I got an email from the RFL promoting some SL gmaes this weekend. I was disappointed not to see a mention of the free entry offer at Swinton today as I think this is a great way to push the game around Manchester. I emailed them and asked them why no mention of Swinton's initiative. Guess what? No reply. I think that says something about what the RFL thinks of the non-SL gmae and it's general attitude towards customer service. Even a quick 'thanks for your message' would have been polite. It is much cheaper to retain customers than it is to recruit new ones but maybe the RFL does not realise this!
  3. wiggler

    Toulouse game

    Is it free to get in tomorrow? If it is I will make my first trip to Heywood Road. My McAfee safety software was telling me not to go to the Swinton LIons website as it is unsafe. Is the club aware of this issue? Parking - the website mentions that there are no Sunday restrictions to street parking but no mention of Saturdays so what is the score? It would be useful to have this info on the website.
  4. wiggler

    Toulouse game

    Is it free to get in tomorrow? If it is I will make my first trip to Heywood Road. My McAfee safety software tells me not to go to the Swinton LIons website as it is unsafe. Is the club aware of this issue?
  5. wiggler

    why no RED devils at st helens?

    Thanks for the feedback. Not sure what you mean by 405 lines. It was on bbc2. I could see a little red (don' tforget the collar) but black and blue predominate . As stated I would expect to see more as red is part of the team name. Hull FC's primary home colour is black and their away strip features a pink and black shirt, black shorts and black socks. I could see the black quite clearly on the same tv that I could barely see the red on the Salford kit. Perhaps Salford Red Devils could take a leaf out of Hull's book? Manchester United do not feature the word red in their club name so the comparison seems a little tenuous. Manchester United (whom I neither love nor hate) have created a worldwide brand whereas Salford RL struggle to come up with a consistent imagery or team name. Man Utd - major worldwide brand in arguably the world's biggest sport. Salford/Salford City Reds/Salford Red Devils - weak brand in a minority sport. We cannot compare apples with lemons. Very interesting to learn about the origins of the city name. I was not aware of that. I can see the logic now but would still question the value of etymology when it comes to marketing. It may be a bit arcane for younger customers. Just seems a bit incongruous to add the words red and devil to the club name and then largely drop the colour from the away kit and not feature the devil in the logo. Still I hope it works for the club. Once again, thanks for taking the time to respond to my ramblings with some well made interesting points.
  6. wiggler

    Koukash and new Cumbrian club - good idea?

    As a name how about West Cumbrian Jets? This name would clearly be a Workington/Whitehaven/Maryport club - linking it with Barrow would be a stretch too far. Cumbria is a big county with poor roads so the journey time from Barrow to Workington is prohibitive. According to Google maps it takes 30 minutes longer to get form Barrow to Workington than from Featherstone to Rochdale. And how ludicrous does it sound to suggest a merger between Fev and Hornets to generate a Super League team? The better non-conference amateur teams are playing in the North West league this year rather than travelling up the coast to West Cumbria, which tells you something about the journey. Biggest stumbling block would be the ground. It would need to be new so as not to alienate existing club fans (not there are many left who pay to go these days) and attract new comers (both Derwent Park and the Rec are past their best before dates). Lillyhall ( near Distington) has always been the favourite as there is land and it straddles the Allerdale/Copeland border. The playing talent is there, so keep dreaming. All it needs is plenty Koukash cash!
  7. I doubt I am the first person to think of this but how about a USA v Canada game as an adjunct to the Denver test? That would make it a double header and give the locals a parochial reason to attend. It would also help to raise the profile of the US RL. Maybe give it a fancy title like the 'North American RL Bowl' to whip up some entusiasm. Without some US involvement I fear it might be as interesting to a Coloradan as a game of field hockey beween Holland & Argentina at Old Traffprd would be to RL fans. If that holds no interest for you then why should an American go to watch a sport he has no interest in just because 2 top teams are playing? I am also a little bemused by the location as all the USARL teams are based in the East of the country but Denver is west. Surely it would make more sense to play it somewhere like New York, Boston or Philadelphia? All big cities with some grassroots RL to build on and nurture. Call me crazy but wouldn't Toronto be a better location? If the object of the game is to develop RL in USA Denver makes as much sense as playing a game in Norway to promote the game in Scotland! Oslo is less than half the distance from Glasgow than it is from New York to Denver.
  8. I have just been watching the super league show and it made me chuckle that for a team that includes the word 'red' in it's title the colour red was strikingly absent from the away kit. I cannot see the branding logic of calling yourself red and then turning out in predominantly black and blue. I know the opposition were in red and white but more red on the socks or shorts would work and reinforce the brand name rather than detracting from it. What colours will Salford wear away when the home team does not wear red? Black and blue? Whilst I am on, I quite like the new logo as an artwork but where is the 'devil' from the club name? And why show a willow tree when the club gave up playing at The Willows back in 2011? Heritage is all well and good but a willow tree as the main component seems overkill and lacks marketing punch. Come to think of it were there actually any willow trees at The Willows? I can recall seeing Bernard Manning there but no willow trees!
  9. wiggler


    Send it in to Workington job centre. There might be someone who wants 2 hours work on occasional sundays. Minimum wage? Zero hours contract? At least you get a free 'uniform'.
  10. wiggler


    In the FAQ's (presumably placed by the club) there is a question about potential queues leading to customers missing the kick off. The reply to the question does not answer the question! If you are going to create FAQ's it might be sensible to actually answer your own questions. Will KO's be delayed if queues have formed? Yes or no?
  11. I have just called Cougar Park and the phone rang for 2 minutes. No answer and no answerphone. Not very professional. Shall I spend my money elsewhere?
  12. wiggler

    Barla cup

    I went to watch Queens play Orrell St James (Lancashire team in glorified Yorkshire Cup!) in Leeds and it was a good game. I think the criticism of BARLA is a bit unfair here as it is up to teams to enter and the RFL has seemingly 'advised' NCL clubs not to enter so only a handful of these better amateur teams break rank. BARLA put the round dates on during dead weekends in the NCL, but the majority of NCL teams have not wished to participate. That is not BARLA's decision.
  13. The RFL web site for Cumbria RL has neither current fixtures nor results; http://www.rugby-league.com/leagues__competitions/cumbria_rugby_league/results I emailed the RFL contact shown on the site on Monday but no reply 3 days later. This seems very unprofessional, particularly at the start of the season. The game is struggling in Cumbria - Maryport and Gt. Clifton have dropped out of their leagues, Dalton dropped out of Pennine League and Roose could not raise a team last week . Surely the RFL should be doing the basics to create awareness through their own web site? Cumbria has often felt it is treated as the poor relation by the RFL - is this another example?
  14. Good to see the club does not want to pay the taxes imposed upon it. No doubt the government would just have wasted this money on schools, roads or hospitals. Much better it gets spent on professional sport!
  15. It is frankly ludicrous that a Scottish team is in the 4 nations as evidenced by the fact that the RFL is (rightly) scared to stage a game north of the border. Scotland is not ready for it and the prospect of 3 heavy defeats will do little to foster interest in our sport. The fault lies with the people who made the decision to include them. They obviously were not expected to win the 'European Cup' when they did. It should have been France to assist in the development of their home grown talent. Putting Scotland in is like expecting 3 piranhas to play nicely with a goldfish and hoping to get some nice PR out of it. Would Scottish kids be picking up tennis racquets if Murray had lost every Grand Slam match he ever played in?