GUBRATS

Exactly right , which is why for the last 2 years he hasnt had a concrete policy , the labour ' manifesto ' is simple , everything and nothing " we will sit on the fence until the tories mess up " in the hope that he might just one day get to the top job , god help us if he ever does And this is from somebody who in since voting for the 1 st time in 1979 has only ever voted labour And as tim2 states above , none of them are worth a **** , they are all bar one or two exceptions [ mrs may being one ] just out for themselves Just think how much of a mess this could have been

Very little chance , they dont have the skill set required , and by the time they aquired it , theyd be too old

Apologies , I took you to mean finished article 1 st team players

How ?

Do we want our players getting involved in media squabbles with ex players ?

He said the right things that were required at the time , in truth very little chance , quite often we have Aussie coaches coming over to the UK and complaining that our players , after 10-12 years of playing RL dont have the core skills to be able to compete with the players from down under

No , its pointless for clubs outside SL to try to produce finished article 1 st team players , what is more important is that the clubs work with local amateurs and schools to improve participation levels in those areas , that is where the RFL should push the lower tier clubs and reward them

I'd say it was almost impossible to convert any Gridiron players to RL other than wingers and possibbly a prop forward , and even then to top tier standard , highly unlikely , the skill set is very different , gridiron is very position specific , some defensive players [ that some on here have suggested would be the best bet ] could essentially go through a whole High school-College-NFL career without actually touching a ball Much easier to convert the other way skill wise , as I suggested Des Drummond could have made a running back in the NFL IMO

I havent ever suggested that Toronto will damage those clubs , they wont help them survive either , Toronto's inclusion in the UK RL pyramid will have no effect on essentially any club However wholesale inclusion of several 6-7-8 NA clubs could have a dissasterous effect on SL clubs , but heven then hardly any on lower tier clubs

surfing anytime 15 miles from the sea is strange its not good as it gets worse when trying to sleep , and i still have a physical job , which is great at my age and I enjoy what I do sorry to hear that I hope you can deal with it

Thats where I want you to be , as Ive posted before , you dont really ' fit ' in the Championship , if you are to , survive , grow , eventually produce some income or player pool , it will be in SL Will other follow you ? , i doubt it , and have reservations as to its overall workability

Anyway , midnight here now , and im up at 6 , so finish the Jim Beam and off to bed and sleep , if the sciatica will let me

Hopefully not as ' cool ' as it will be right now , when I go next year

as I've just pointed out to Kman , your conceptions of UK RL fans is primarily through this site , it isnt a true reflection of the vast majority of fans who attend games every week of the season

Plenty of optomistic people in RL in this country , you only tend to meet them at games though , unfortunatly you dont get to those games , therefore you dont see them or the kids and families that populate plenty of grounds all over the north of England you seem to have plenty of missconceptions about the sport