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Actually the original post I responded too on here did not say "advisors", the word didnt appear in the post at all, it said "experts" which is a word you have constantly used on this thread to refer to IMG in a sarcastic way. Therefore it was hardly a "leap of faith" to assume you were having another pop at them. again I ask "How is what is happening at Salford anything to do with IMG if they have nothing to do with the licensing process anymore?"

check out clause 5.1 of the directors code of conduct, it can be found on the "board of directors" (the huge 3 man [yes just men] board) page as a pdf.. if only they'd read that 1 clause first!

How is what is happening at Salford anything to do with IMG if they have nothing to do with the licensing process anymore? Salford arguably wouldn't be in super league if the original criteria set out by IMG and the original weightings had been agreed to. Or are you saying that IMG should have stepped in and said "you know they're a basket case don't you? can you just kick them out otherwise our job or marketing this league is going to be much harder?" I mean I could understand that position a lot more as what you would like to happen, even though it would massivly overstep their remit.

Exactly, who'd have thunk it, specialists being used for the specialisms.

IIRC IMG do an initial "sanity check" of the data for the social media and, I think, the other interweb stuff so that there is one common reporting set up using data that is equal across the board. That is then submitted to the audit team. The Audit team, which I think is independent, then audits all the data that is sent to them to make sure it is correct and therefore the scores are correct at the end. This is an absolute box tick, they do not have influence on anything they are just checking that 25m clicks which equals 1 point (for example, cant remember what the actual points are awarded for) is actually what is on the spreadsheet etc.. (a bit like votes on britains got talent are independently audited).. they are just following the criteria that is given to them by the RFL and the clubs who voted for them (and changed them from the initial IMG ones).

I've been in plenty of these types of meetings with advisors and no matter the advice that is given, no matter the information that is given not everyone follows the sensible advice.. If you think they do you need to give your head a wobble. IMG came out with a set of proposals that were sensible and worked. These were changed by the clubs.. those are the facts.. the fact there was already a good set of grading criteria that did a better job than this does, including the grade demotion for financial issues (something you want) shows that they had a better grasp of this... then the clubs changed it.. it wasnt at that stage about advice, they gave them the criteria which the clubs then changed! IMG can only work with what the clubs give them at any moment.. the CLUBS gave them this issue with Salford becuase the CLUBS changed the criteria and then the RFL marked to that criteria. I am not defending the people that gave the reports on SRD... I dont understand where on earth you can get that picture from... for the 1 millionth time.. IMG ARE NOT THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE THEY DID NOT DO THE ASSESMENT. Those that are responsible are the RFL FFS! If we are here again next year its because the clubs and the RFL watered down the penalties that IMG PUT IN PLACE for financial misconduct. However many times you want to attack IMG for preparing the reports on SRD, you will always be wrong.

The experts did, even had a rule which catered for chucking a team out for financial issues (automatically a grade lower)... guess what THE GAME changed it. You can berate IMG all you want, you can hold the opinion that they don't know what they are doing, but you would be wrong. They set up a system, the clubs voted for changes that made the system unbalanced and toothless, that is on them no matter how many times you want to say "the experts don't know what they're doing" its the clubs that changed it to be like this.

I like that Leeds shirt.. more for what it is than the aesthetics. The Huddersfield one is a really nice shirt even without the great story behind it.

Its the speech bubbles... "you are the zebra"

actually no thats not what chatgpt would come up with if you put that in... its this Unfortunately now that I have posted that Derek will be launching this as the magic kit!

delete browsing history....

Back from a week in tenerife and I just used the standard google VPN that my Google Pixel phone had on it and hotspotted to that from my other devices.. easy

It's a company communication and they cannot get the where, were, we're correct...

Screw that, where, were, we're FFS, it's a company communication!!!!

I think it's a big problem outside RU, Football and Cricket (arguably) most other sport play as GB (Hockey being a notable exception but play as GB for the Olympics with only a few from the other nations)... GB has an argument around support for sure, also the fact GB is the country really... For me it's play as GB if we play the world cup amf every international as GB if not then go as the separate countries..

"Rugby League; we don't need paying fans"!

So far I have booked accommodation for both an RU international and the NFL in London in the autumn as I've known exactly when they will be for a while now. Will I do the same now for the RL??? If this announcement had been out earlier then that would have taken priority. It surely, therefore, is not tough to see where the issue is if you want to get a full house (or anywhere near). International RL once again shoots itself in the foot while claiming it missed..

I didnt but I'm glad I have been shown the way by the faceless oracles on this internet forum! I wish I hadn't wasted the last 30 years of my life on amateur and junior Rugby now and just waited till I won the EuroMillions or sold my business when I could then get all the plaudits and make a "worthwhile" contribution to sport, rather than the many hours every week that I put in in the freezing cold winter months stood outside when I could be inside keeping warm. Oh and spending my own money (so it doesn't go through the business as my business partner wouldn't agree) to pay for sponsorship etc of the teams.. No I shouldn't have done that I should know my place as someone who knows nothing and doesn't spend enough time in the stands (becuase I am too busy actually coaching and adminning clubs) but I cant possibly have talked to people about it the sport and what they think even though I spend most of my spare time at Rugby Clubs.. The irony being we are looking to sell the business, for a not insubstantial amount which could make a nice difference at a club at champ level if I decided that was where to invest some of it, at which point I go from knowing nothing to being a visionary.. it really is quite odd. But while I did consider it as an option about 6 months ago, the last 2 weeks has made me decide that there isnt a chance I would risk my money when long term strategies and plans can get torn up like this, its maniacal and no business in its right mind would act like this, so when/if I do reinvest it isnt going to be in RL.. Some of the attitude is daft on this forum at the moment,... maybe time to take a hiatus.

Indeed, and an awful lot do this as volunteers... the rotters...

Theres that glasshouse again... You are aware that many people on here know exactly who others are and it's not just nameless and faceless aren't you?

You do your fair share of scorning too Harry... Glass houses etc.. "Tell me RP what do you know of the attitude of people in the stands...." And "when your next at the game chose some people at random and ask them..." As if I don't talk to people.. you can be quite disingenuous when having a conversation Harry. "Soft assumption" I suppose though..

It's a lot easier to make money if you don't have to worry about "doing the right thing". If we look at many people with money their "morals" can be "questionable"... Before anyone jumps on me with examples of the opposite I purposefully put "many" not "all"

As someone who owns and runs a business taking many risks (which he well knows) I get f*all respect from him for my opinion, which is nice

I love the fact you just assume I don't talk to people in the game at all levels... How little you actually know... On one thread it's all about those in the stands, the next it's about the people who own it, who is it next? You want what you want and you side with those that espouse it... But woe betide anyone else do the same hey...

So it's NOT the people in the stands that we should listen to, it IS the club officials.. ok glad that's clear