FearTheVee

Put it this way - I'm very pleased to be playing Leeds and not Wire next week.

Jonny Lomax?! The MOS award gets less meaningful every year. Sam Tomkins for me.

Slowing down with age but the speed and quality of his distribution , together with his ridiculously effective defence, mean he's still a high quality player. When you're used to watching Roby at 9 some of the other hookers seem to move in slow motion getting the ball away from the PTB. What a player he's been - labelled as nothing but an impact scooter in his early years, matured into a magnificent all round hooker.

I dunno, they managed it twice last time out with half a team and playing with 12 for 20 minutes so I can see them causing some real problems. If the returning guys are match fit (big if) Leeds will cause Wigan problems.

I think Leeds will have too much in the pack and with ball in hand. I think they'll get the 3/4 tries that will probably see them win the game.

I got it spot on thanks - Challenge Cup games are still games of rugby that can contribute to fatigue. They don't just magically disappear because your team got knocked out.

I hear this a lot from Wigan fans. You’ve played the same games as Cas and what, two more than Saints? You’d think Wigan were playing every other day the way people talk.

Love Wigan fans saying Walmsley’s performance was unimpressive. It’s been so long since they saw a prop they don’t know what one looks like anymore.

Nice extrapolation my man.

I don't really know what you're getting at saying they were already there - nobody is disputing that. I'm saying Wigan's squad is in a far worse state than it was then when they had to beat Saints with both halves injured to win the GF. Maguire turned around some truly horriffic underperfromance from a squad with talent and leadership in it. This time his job would be very different, that's all. Plus the game has moved on in the UK so the step-change in defence and intensity he brought first time around wouldn't be quite so transformational.

No you're right, in which case just add Stuart Fielden, McIlorum, peak Tommy L, Sean O'Loughlin in for 2010. My point is Wigan's squad looks really problematic for next year and I'm not sure MM will fix that (albeit he will undoubtedly be better than Lam).

Just watched the Paasi tackle in slo-mo. Think 2 matches is about right - it's not one of those turn the shoulder and attack side on, he's front.chest on with Langi and tries to put a big shot on but gets it wrong.

He just needs the equivalent of Finch, Lima, Hoffman, Sam Tomkins, Gleeson etc to join him too and they might just be in business again.

Brilliant game, thoroughly enjoyed it. THoughts Saints were tremendous for the vast majority of the game but take nothing away from CAtalans and the way they approached that last period. Love, love, love watching Morgue play - like a French Shaun Johnson. If that ends up being the GF it could be an absolute classic. Comfortably the two best teams in SL I'd say.

If you ignore the old players in most packs the average age goes down too. Averages are funny like that. If Wigan or any club puts out a pack with an average age of 21 they are horrendously badly run at best and negligent at worst - which is probably why you never see it.

I'm just glad Chris Hill was OK after his HIA. He does well to beat those tests every time we play them and luckily for him they come at the end of one of his spells which is fortunate for the lad.

Yep!

It won’t happen - half the problem with Wigan is they won’t get hammered, they will fight valiantly and lose without threat. As a Saints fan I enjoy wogan travails but Super Leagie needs Saints, Wigan, Leeds, Hull, Catalans all firing. That’s a great league. This is a garbage league.

Leeds win for me - Wigan look like a team just waiting for the coach to be sacked.

People bang on like Hurrell is some unstoppable force. Percy has played fewer games than Hurrell in 2021 but has more busts and breaks to his name despite being eased back after injury. Hurrell is worth one or two eye catching runs a game - style over substance, which is not a good fit in this Saints team where success is built on effort, commitment and professionalism.

Yes, agreed. We can’t possibly discuss Isa without talking about Bentley getting binned once less than Jon Bateman. Please do keep up the diversion for as long as you care to.

Poor recruitment from Saints - don’t get it

Yeah, deffo the same and you deffo don’t sound daft drawing false equivalence between the actions of the two.

That apology just makes the ban look even more ridiculous.