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  1. I don’t understand why people don’t choose Hodgson as starting hooker, with Roby replacing him from the bench when the opposing forwards get fatigued. That seems to me to be the most lethal choice for Great Britain.
  2. R. C. Carpentras is not in the same competitive division as S.A. Avignon, and will never become a professional club, so it is no competition for Avignon gaining fans in the Vaucluse region if and when Avignon joins Super League. By contrast, Halifax has a lot of competing rugby league clubs in West Yorkshire, many of them in Super League already. It has little demographic basis for fan growth.
  3. Halifax has a small fan base despite having being in existence since 1873. It has strong rival club competition impeding attracting any more rugby league fans from towns in the rest of the Calderdale or broader west Yorkshire region. Avignon, though a town of similar size to Halifax, has an entire region (Vaucluse) to attract fans from. Also its existing rugby league team, which plays in the French Elite One competition, has no competition from nearby rugby league teams, nor from a different rival major professional team sport in the town, It also has a bigger stadium than Halifax, and has attracted 17,500 spectators for international rugby league games (though obviously many of those were from outside the region). So it is ripe for development.
  4. If Fiji could select its strongest possible team, it would be very strong and perhaps could defeat England. Many of its players are stars in the NRL. The team below is very powerful in every position except the halves. The forwards could match it with the English pack, and the outside backs, if given good service, would be stronger than the English outside back line. The only question is whether the youth and inexperience of the Fijian halves would cripple the rest of the team. The lack of star halves is an ongoing problem for Fijian rugby league. The continuing strength of the Fijian rugby league team is despite the fact that several Fijian former rugby league stars --- wingers Semi Radradra, Marike Koroibete, and Eto Nabuli -- have already left the NRL for rugby union and achieved international representative honours in that code. The current efforts of the NRL to promote rugby league in Fiji, with the help of Australian government money, could eventually reap the result of an even stronger Fijian national team. Best possible Fijian team: Kevin Naiqama (St Helens) Suilasi Vunivalu (Melbourne), Waqa Blake (Parramatta), Marcelo Montoya (Canterbury-Bankstown), Maika Sivo (Parramatta), Sitiveni Moceidreke (Canberra), Brandon Wakeham (Canterbury-Bankstown) Jason Bukuya (Cronulla) Williame Kikau (Penrith), Korbin Sims (St George-Illawarra), Tui Kamikamica (Melbourne), Apisai Korisau (Manly), Daniel Saifiti (Newcastle) Interchange: Tariq Sims (St George-Illawarra), Kane Evans (Parramatta), Jacob Saifiti (Newcastle) Brayden Williame (Catalans), Reserves: Mikaele Ravalawa (St George-Illawarra), Ben Nakubuwai (Salford), Joe Lovodua (St. George-Illawarra)
  5. You say that the NRL has not expanded its heartlands since the advent of Gold Coast, while since that time the value of the NRL TV contract has ballooned massively.. But that improvement in rugby league's financial well being has had nothing to do with developing the heartlands and everything to do with reducing Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation's previous powerful influence over the NRL governing structure, via the National Rugby League Partnership -- a power-sharing arrangement between News Corporation and the Australian Rugby League (ARL) which ran the National Rugby League competition from 1998 until 2012, as a consequence of peace negotiations that ended the Super League-ARL war. The National Rugby League Partnership had crippled the bargaining power of the NRL in TV contract negotiations. By forming the independent ARL Commission in 2012, devoid of Murdoch representatives, as the NRL's governing-oversight body, and subsequently pursuing more astute independent negotiating over the TV contract with both Channel 9 and Murdoch's Fox network, the NRL achieved the current more equitable and lucrative TV contracts.. All the current talk in the NRL about possible future enlargement of the competition involves Perth, and a second team in Brisbane/south Queensland (which is underrepresented), followed by Wellington New Zealand. There has even been talk of relocating a heartlands Sydney team to Perth, should it fail financially in Sydney. Where exactly in the English heartlands do you think we should be focusing on? The big English heartlands clubs -- Wigan, Warrington, St Helens, Leeds and Hull FC are the only locations that exist containing large existing fan bases and financial strength for the game. The main large cities adjacent to the "heartland area," Manchester and Liverpool, are totally wedded to football. Places like Swinton, Rochdale, Oldham, Dewsbury, Halifax, etc are obvious dead ends, both financially and from a fan base point of view. You ignore the fact that the fans in the heartlands are generally less well off financially than the fans in north America, who have more disposable income to spend on attending sporting events than the English. The largest number of people in this forum who have voted have chosen Newcastle as the next preferred location for Super League expansion, followed clearly by Avignon, and then Ottawa and New York. Most rugby league fans would rather see a strong Super League club in Newcastle, and others in France and north America, than another in the English M62 corridor. That is because if any of those cities in far northern England, France or north America were to succeed. their impact on the popularity and financial well being of rugby league would dwarf any benefits that could come from an insignificant new England heartlands team.
  6. Beating Melbourne in Melbourne, after being down 18-0 was a huge achievement for the Green Machine. Hodgson played a key role for Canberra, as he usually does. Bellamy made a great mistake in leaving on the bench until the last five minutes his dynamo attacking player Ryan Papenhuyzen. The Dutch flyer could have made a difference, but was brought on too late.
  7. It is tough to find quality backs. Of course the forwards are very impressive, since so many of them are killing it in the NRL. Here is my 26 man team pick: Johnny Lomax Tommy Makinson, Mark Percival, Jake Connor, Ryan Hall Blake Austin, Gareth Widdop, Sam Burgess John Bateman, Elliot Whitehead James Graham, Josh Hodgson, Thomas Burgess. Interchange: James Roby, George Burgess, Chris Hill, Sean O’Loughlin Reserves: Stefan Ratchford, Sam Tomkins, Jermaine McGillvary, Joe Burgess, Oliver Gildart, George Williams, Ben Currie, Luke Thompson, Alex Walmsley, It may be controversial to leave O’Loughlin on the bench. But the back row forwards selected are stars in the NRL, and I am sure that Wayne Bennett will pick them. Blake Austin qualifies as British, and he is at or near the top of the Man of Steel ladder. I don’t think that there are any Welshmen in my selection. So perhaps you might have to include Ben Flower.
  8. You seem to be either a very confused or a dreadfully uninformed person. First the title question doesn't suggest that Toronto and Toulouse are already in Super League. In fact if you actually read the original post it stated clearly that there was a lot of support for both of them to enter Super League (hence logically entailing that they aren't there yet). The original post then asks if there should be further expansion after they enter Super League, and if so, with which clubs. Second, it is patently false to assert that " after those 2 clubs there aren't any more that actually exist." For your information Newcastle, Sheffield, Avignon and London Skolars are clubs that actually exist. It boggles the mind that a reader of rugby league forums would not know that. Moreover two other proposed clubs, Ottawa and New York, are in the advanced planning stage. Third, under the current promotion and relegation for Toronto or Toulouse to enter Super League could mean displacing a current heartland club, but not if London Broncos are relegated. In any case,in the future the size of Super League could conceivably be expanded so as not to displace existing clubs. So the question is hardly loaded to antagonise fans of existing "real" clubs, as you assert. Again, as I have pointed out, four of the clubs proposed are already existing 'real' clubs. So there is nothing silly about the question. There is however a lot of silliness and shameful ignorance in the minds of the people who seek to ridicule the question, and who seek to ridicule the whole idea of global expansion of the game. That is the real reason why there have so many silly answers on this thread from an agitated few.
  9. You have descended back down to extreme caricature, in a feeble attempt to ridicule possible future expansion, instead of trying to present a rational argument. It is not funny and definitely not smart. But I guess that is all you are intellectually capable of.
  10. I think that you have to preserve many of the bigger traditional clubs --- Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Hull FC, Leeds, Catalans, and perhaps Hull KR and Castleford --- in Super League along side the new clubs from bigger cities like London, Toronto, New York, Ottawa, Toulouse etc. Otherwise the traditional fan base of the game will disappear.
  11. It might feel a little strange, but even the NFL, with its mostly big city teams, has the tiny town of Green Bay, Wisconsin with a franchise, up against teams from New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.. It might eventually develop in Super League, if further significant expansion takes place, that nearly half the clubs will be big cities (e.g. London, Toronto, New York, Ottawa, Paris and Boston) some will be medium sized cities (e.g Toulouse, Leeds, Newcastle, and Hull), a few others will be towns ( e.g. Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Castleford,), and others will be regions (e.g. Catalans, Avignon-Vaucluse)
  12. Where did I say that I wanted Hull KR relegated and thereby an end to the Hull derby?
  13. The M62 corridor is a dead end for growing the game, an area which no rational business man is going to invest in. Smart businessmen look to new horizons, like Toronto, which is one of the big potential growth areas for our game, along with Toulouse. I am sorry and sad that you are so rigidly opposed to expanding the presence of our game around the world, thereby improving its popularity and financial well being.
  14. Don't the RFL already do that with any newly established team joining even League One and the Championship, let alone Super League? The RFL has sent delegations to Toulouse in the past to look at its operations.
  15. Yes. Rugby league needs to show that it has several professional clubs already in Super League before it tries to establish a team in Paris. Rugby Union's Stade Francais Paris was established in 1892. The other current Paris club, Racing 92, was formed in 2001.
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