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I see the funny side, and it was unfortunate. But let’s not overlook the Mr Ellis biggest investment was beating the current SL champions quite comfortably before it ended. Yeah it was a friendly, yes both teams were not full strength but both were pretty close. However Trinity looked very comfortable and well drilled and more than a match for Wigan on the night. Floodlights can be fixed for few hundred quid, teams can’t. So I’ll take the floodlight failure anyway over a team failure.

Why is it great news? They have no money to do it, just the 2 million the council gave them. I could get planning permission to turn my house into a mansion, problem is I can only afford a shed. People live in a fantasy world in RL they really do. The only reason Trinity got there money was through a fortunate set of events. Had it not been a development in Rotherham requiring the councils blessing at NM, we’d still be waiting to this day for YC to cough up. Cas need just that, it will come, but when? That’s the real issue.

That’s because people like you have in inbuilt snobbish inferiority complex. Most of us celebrate being northern, quirks and all. We don’t need to apologise to anyone.

I’m afraid you’re another one under a miscomprehension. The space on the west side of the ground is more than capable of taking a decent sized stand. I accept that it does look narrow but actually it isn’t, I think because it’s so messy at present it looks worse than it is. Access is poor but as it’s not where the main stand is anymore it doesn’t really matter. The fact that the west terrace used to contain the old main stand tells you it’s bigger than you think. i get what you are thinking but it’s actually height that may be the issue, as it may deprive the houses behind of light. That’s what Ellis means when he says “creative’. However you are right about the south end of the ground. There is a huge amount of space there and it has its own independent road access. It really could be developed into something special, but it’s last on the list as the boxes are paid for and are a good revenue maker.

Ridiculous statement. I give you Dave Fifita and countless other fringe NRL suckers stories. Did you start watching RL last week,

You’d still need to relay the terracing. I get your logic but those’d boxes are 25 years old. I doubt they would survive the move and even if they did they are still a temporary structure. Its something the old BOD would have looked at but I think Ellis’s has bigger plans.

The hyperbole used by LE these days is disappointing but typical of modern media There is nothing bold about what he’s saying, he’s just echoing the current consensus. He’d be daft not to. What matters is if he’s right - I’ll see you come September time on that one.

Glad you said Hood. He gets a bit of stick from some fans, but if you watch us over the past two season, on the few occasions we’ve been decent, he’s been in the team. probably not going back to SL but I reckon he will give us a good season this year.

Its narrow but not as narrow as people tend to think. You could fit a slightly narrower East stand minus all the stuff at the back. In truth what goes there is more down to the town planners than the club. Depend how accommodating they are. However Ellis says he wants to be more creative than that - but as yet nobody knows his vision.

He just doesn’t think full stop. iMHO it’s the bones of a SL squad, especially in the pack including the hookers. The amount of players just on the cusp of hitting there premium years is very high. I’d say it’s 2-3 players off from SL survival and 5-6 off being top six contenders.

Yeah it was a cycle track that’s true enough but it was relayed after the stand was pulled down. At that point you’d have thought the council would have raised it. The bit that’s under cover was built later by the fans I think and is the right height from memory. There is also no drainage. All it needed was a bit more concrete, so to me it was a lost opportunity. Meaning now we have to completely rebuild where we could have possibly just extended. Oh well..

Sad thing is that there is nothing wrong with the terracing, it was only put in mid 1980’s . However the council in its infinite wisdom laid the first three steps beneath pitch level rendering it almost useless. Had they laid it correctly it wouldn’t need much work at all. Oh the mistakes of the past.

From one of the most derogatory posters in the forum, that is hysterical - silly person.

Can’t agree, his defence is fine imo. His problem is that he doesn’t fit the modern game all that well. He’s not got the finesse or athletics of a Tom Johnstone. Nor does he have quite the physical presence of a Ryan Hall, though he sure tries. He doesn’t fit into either of those two styles. However his biggest weakness is that he’s not a natural try scorer. He scores a fair few but he doesn’t conjure many and is prone to being slightly off the pace and bombing some real sitters. That said he’s still SL squad player level, great cover for most clubs but unlikely to ever be a first choice imho. We didn’t keep him because he didn’t want to be in a championship team I’m told. Fair enough but if he ends up at London he’s kind of forced that to happen anyway. Be especially brutal for him if we replace London.

I think they are on a first come first serve basis, rather than specifically for away fans, but I get your point.

Yep it’s a must for SL. I’m not discounting the needs of Championship fans, but generally the number of away fans aren’t there. They also tend to be diehards who would follow their team anywhere. They can be catered for as BV is now. To attract the full quota of bandwagon away fans and all their lovely money would require facilities we don’t currently have.

The only fly in the ointment is the possibility we don’t get promoted. Can’t see any point in redeveloping further for second tier RL. It will just be a general spruce up sadly. I could be wrong, but businessmen want some kind of return, and an almost always empty west stand wouldn’t give one.

To be fair it won’t have cost him much to create the player area, even though it does look good. His company has a team of fitters, plumbers and electricians, so it’s likely he’s using them in their quiet periods. He will also be owed no end of favours, so it won’t take a huge chunk from the budget. i think they are also refurbishing the other levels, most notably the two levels of vices. After that expect the old clubhouse to receive a similar makeover and a possible repurposing. The first real expenditure will be the West Terrace, that won’t come cheap.

I’d have thought it was obvious. Most no SL clubs can’t afford to run academies and Reserves. Especially since central funding was cut to virtually nothing! Those that do get the scraps player wise, with Wigan and Leeds in particular grabbing nearly all the talent, and then hoarding it. Its SL clubs who get all the money so surely it’s their job to create most of the games young players. Players who they should be playing more often or moving them on to a second chance club if they are not intending to keep them. Then the Championship clubs can pick up these young players and give them a platform. Many will then blossom and possibly re-enter the SL at some point. It used to happen all the time and produced a very useful second wave of players, some even went onto top honours. In fairness to SL clubs, it is often the case that Championship clubs simply can’t offer the wages these youngsters want and many are simply lost to the game. When Aldi pay £15 ph it’s hard to keep players interested in what is hardly a glamorous level of RL. We need to find a better gateway for players to drop down. That leadership needs to come from SL as they have the bulk of the games resources. Feeder clubs and a stand alone second tier competition with no PR is probably the answer. Allowing players to retain their links with their parent clubs. But I doubt the tribes nature of our game will buy that.

I’d be pointing the finger at SL clubs on that one!

That’s a signing putting a marker down.

So did we before he came to you, should have been a warning. We had a Kiwi last year, I still can't bring myself to say his name.

Like all these kinds of signings, could be inspired, could be a disaster. Usually a disaster, but you never know, best of luck.

Why? It's all broadly on the same subject.