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Kayakman last won the day on January 6 2020

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  1. More accurate: Some of the debts were built up over time and many accounts were subsequently properly settled before the final season. I talked to a supplier over here ( I know him) and he was always paid. Fighting Irish was correct in his narrative. The chance of those owed money I would put at zero....as I'm sure you recall there was a proper proposal to pay these debts put forward but it was subsequently nixed by RFL (a shocker).
  2. We all know that there were some problems with suppliers and players getting paid on time before SBW...I know you know this for a fact Harry since you talked to some of the actual players involved about what was going on (nudge, nudge, wink, wink; we both know that Harry). Some of the suppliers were on this very forum complaining about not being paid properly (I poo pooed them at the time in defence of my club but it turns out they were correct, I apologize now). Then there was the problem with the players getting cheques before Xmas that one year between League 1 and Championship. Both of theses things fit perfectly in the narrative of Fighting Irish and his analysis. The comments Elstone made were well before the SBW signing as I recall. I think it was as Fighting Irish says; the management team was given a budget by Argyle and they mishandled parts of it from there. Once the SL thing became a forced reality and SL made it very clear they wanted nothing to do with Toronto...Covid hit....well then Argyle was forced to fish or cut bait.
  3. This is the thing Dave...I looked for it before but there is nothing there....it wasn't a formal press conference or anything , he was leaving a meeting in a corridor but it was around the time that he was appointed. It happened, the fix was in. I mentioned it in some posts on here at the time.
  4. This is an interesting point....there were a couple of supplier getting paid (also players) problems early on. Some problems in Championship but the money was flowing. I remember seeing a short clip of Elstone, early on, walking down a corridor and the reporter asked him about Toronto and he said something to the effect of "Never going to happen...how many times does an owner have to be told he is not welcome". It began to devolve from there....he made his position (and that of the majority SL owners) quite clear. I think the take of what Fighting Irish says in his post is most correct account of what actually occurred.
  5. We all know that a person should always pay their bills Harry...and we all know that not everybody always does. Its a tough world out there but what they did, welcoming Toronto in and then Toronto does all the groundwork for a number of years (with large outlays of cash) and then shutting the door on Toronto in a backstab...well that is poorly done and there is plenty of blame to go around on this one. You must also recall that there was deal to pay the players and keep Toronto going but this was also quickly nixed by SL at the time. A great opportunity was missed by SL on this one.....more than just one character to blame. As for myself, I know Elstone had his marching orders and mind made up well beforehand.....he (and his bosses) bear a large part of the responsibility on this one clearly.
  6. This is incorrect.....I also met and talked with Argyle numerous times and his heart was in the project...when Elstone turned on him that was the beginning of the end....Elstone (and his backers) did not want Toronto in and they made sure they would not be welcome to stay, they went out of their way to make this so...the other problems were fixable but this one, sadly , was not. The fix was in....and I had a front row seat to it.,, watched it, observed it and now have commented on it. Da facts is da facts.
  7. I've always said to posters on here. "Don't mess with Harry Stottle." What a sad end to the Toronto Saga. Woe am I.
  8. Yes we have many cowbirds....they steal the eggs of robins (you call them wrens over there) and put their own eggs in the nest...many like to hang out around cattle since they eat bugs from the dung. I saw my first spring robin yesterday! Spring is nigh! It is very early to see a robin and we have 10 cm of snow coming tomorrow.
  9. They can feed from the hand, they like pieces of suet but the best are the whiskey jacks who are nothing but common camp thieves, very brazen.
  10. We also have the snow bunting. The catbird sounds like a cat in heat (if you know the sound), but it sounds nothing like a buzzard. I like nothing better after a long day of kayaking than laying back at a campsite and listening to the whiskey jacks and other birds of the boreal forest and then I let the loons drift me off into sleep. My favourite is when a golden eagle goes over the kayak and gives a screech above me...i like that.
  11. They should....they looked a gift horse thoroughbred in the mouth and turned it down because there were a couple of teeth that needed some minor work. You can take the horse to water but you can't make it drink.
  12. That is the plain stark truth of it....good post.
  13. Towhees, which sound just like their name when they sing...I don't know if you have them over there. I'm not sure if you have the grey catbird over there but it does, indeed, sound exactly like a meowing cat....fun to listen to.
  14. Perfectly fine...and I firmly stand by my statements on climate control in tee pees (far better than a yurt) and also the situation in Las Vegas....they have forgotten about the games played on the weekend already. Next.
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