fighting irish

Thanks for responding Dave. I didn't see (I didn't read the whole thread) the details about how he proposed they be treated differently? He seemed to be suggesting (to me) that they be treated the same as the English clubs. Would you care to explain what he was saying that could be construed as lacking integrity?

why? Do you assume I'm here raving? lol.

Ha ha ha, thank you for those few kind words. Do you think it's possible for someone to advocate/support an inconsistent, unfair, unethical (immoral) proposal and still qualify as a man of integrity? I said, I couldn't see where Worzel was suggesting anything which was unethical in the treatment of the French clubs. It's not me, that is casting aspersions here Wellsy.

I'm sorry Dave but I don't understand what you are saying? I've read back a page or two and I can't see that Worzel is suggesting treating them differently. Do you mean he's suggesting we treat Toulouse different to Catalans or do you mean he's suggesting treating Toulouse and Catalans differently to all the other clubs? I've been unable to find the detail. Can you explain? I certainly haven't read anything which would call Worzel's character into question.

Well well, thank you for telling me. I'm truly shocked.

It's one of the dangers of unbridled and unprincipled democracy. Without a constitution which protects the rights of all, the individuals are at the mercy of the biggest gang. God help them. I agree wholeheartedly with you, but I'm afraid the necessary principles and integrity, might just, be sadly lacking.

What do you mean by Cornwall going pop?

Great news, keep it coming?

He's Rugby League through and through isn't he?

Isn't that passivity bourne out of naivety? Our blokes hardly qualify as business titans, do they?

This is amazing news, isn't it?

I loved that. It brought me to tears. We need to get into the USA, so many amazing athletes.

I can't open the original link. Could you cut and paste the actual content so I can read it?

It's a problem isn't it? Someone though, needs to speak and act for the ''game'' as a whole. We need a National governing body, with the main (nay only) goal, of increasing participation amongst young (amateur) players and administrators, which is what BARLA should have been. I refer readers to my Billy Smarts/Olympic gymnastics, analogy elsewhere. I say let the circus take care of itself. It's patently obvious they don't have the time, the resources, or even any inclination to look after the folks lower down the pyramid.

Steady on 'Arry, we won this one, with the recent discourse on envy.

What we need is to clone you. Or launch a deliberate campaign (everywhere) to identify and encourage people like yourself to pick up the gauntlet, rather than hope they just ''appear'' without prompting or encouragement. I've made this point many times over the years, you and your ilk ( such as Bob Brown of Hemel Hempstead) are the seed corn, of Rugby League development world wide. All the talk of NRL involvement over here is nice, and all the talk of lavish marketing campaigns and development plans sound great, but realistically, the fundamental/foundational element in any plan to grow the game is the identification of people such as yourself to take the responsibility, to accept the burden to do some work on the games behalf. The game simply cannot grow, otherwise. Good luck matey.

Forgive me fella's but has there been anything concrete on this from Australia? Any links reporting factual Aussie involvement? Or is it all fantasy/speculation? I've tried to keep up with the thread but may have missed something vital.

why?

To promote Bradford Northern. Nigel's back.

I've no idea mate. Unless I'm completely misreading him, he's deliberately implying he knows something which we are not privy to (yet) but that it's coming. I think he's saying that we definitely will find out, sooner or later. I suppose he could be referring to some involvement of the NRL here, he does have Australian contacts who may have tipped him off. On the other hand, perhaps he's warning that this current coup, could be the death knell of pro rugby league in the Northern hemisphere. He works for Sky, perhaps he's aware of discussions about behind closed doors about them turning away from the game? Who knows? Carney, I suppose. What do you reckon?

https://www.totalrl.com/sky-sports-host-brian-carney-hints-at-biggest-consequential-rugby-league-incident-to-happen-in-history/ What is Brian Carney hinting at here?

He might be deliberately trying to wind you up. It's a hobby of his, since he retired.

What is Brian Carney hinting at in the article today? https://www.totalrl.com/sky-sports-host-brian-carney-hints-at-biggest-consequential-rugby-league-incident-to-happen-in-history/

I agree wholeheartedly with you, on this. Isn't it inevitable though, given the countless twists and turns, in a lifetime, that their stories are selectively curated? I think you are right that some will play down the influence of ''good fortune'' in their success and it may be true that it plays a bigger part than most are prepared to acknowledge. Maybe some feel it would devalue ''their achievement'' to admit they were lucky. No doubt. I'm not claiming by the way, (I hope it's clear) that expertise in one field qualifies you to prosper or even opine with any authority, in another. In my experience, most entrepreneurial types are well aware of what they are good at and tend to stick to it. What Harry is saying (I think) is that their involvement in our game, is at their own expense and just as you would, when selecting a meal from the menu at your favourite restaurant, they have limits on what they are prepared to accept. That's all. Finally to me and my personality. I admire achievers, I particularly like self starters, who make their own minds up and will not be told what to do, if they disagree. They finance their own investments and sink or swim, they accept the responsibility for their decisions/outcomes. They are not looking to curry favour, or to be given a leg up, or to rely on nepotism. Like you, (I'd say) I see that their achievements do not diminish my own intrinsic worth, my own self-esteem. I don't care a jot, what others think of me. I expect people to be sceptical (of me) and to put their own interests first. Trust is built over time. Credibility is earned. I know i'm not a scoundrel and that women and children and any peaceable folk can relax and feel safe in close proximity to me. In my dealings with others I look to trade, value for value. My conscience is clear.

As long as I'm not regarded as a scoundrel, a liar or a thief, or a rapist or a murderer, I don't give a hoot whether ''society'' puts me on a pedestal or not. I don't judge my own worth, by other peoples opinions.