DI Keith Fowler

The design itself is fairly well done, but yeah the colours ruin it. They should have gone for a more conservative palette and had the design a bit more subtly incorporated.

I will eat my hat if that is the case.

Nostalgia's not what it used to be.

Not to mention the inherent price increase, for labour and the extra batteries needed, the ratio right now is 1 battery per car by definition you'll need more than that to make recharging work.

Always love logging on to RLFANS. Gives off huge "graphic design is my passion" vibes.

If your teams nickname was seagulls you could potentially have both.

Good point! If they put their order in late they might have decided to just cut their losses and go elsewhere.

Looks really good, but who's the manufacturer? Hummel were too pricey I imagine.

I don't think anyone is going to dispute that there need to be more chargers, I think I read the number of chargers went up 30% last year but sales of EV cars went up 75%. Obviously that's going to cause a strain. It's par for the course in people adopting new technology, it takes time to find a level, and it will do quite quickly because it's all profit not being maximised. Before petrol stations where common if your Ford Model T or whatever ran out of petrol you'd be asking someone in the local town to pull you back with horses, things don't change all that much.

Hotly tipped, highly anticipated, and slated for release.

Indeed, and the best way out of this situation is too look at things on a factual basis. By every metric EV cars will produce less emissions than existing cars. That some companies are going to profit off it, as I posted earlier, is fairly low down my concerns right now, because the end result is a reduction in emissions. High up on my list of concerns is the people looking to profit off of things that will not reduce emissions. Also, please, Mr Fowler is my father. I am Detective Inspector.

Are you sure it's not a copper mine? There's an image that has been going round social media for years purporting to be a lithium mine but actually isn't. In any case, I guess firstly you could read Greenpeace's own words on this, they're supportive of EVs in principle, while remaining critical of the mining methods which aren't inherent within the process but products of exploitation (of either people or the environment) in the name of profit. This isn't an inconsistent position. Secondly if you value their input you could read what they have to say about fossil fuels, you might be surprised to learn they're a little critical. Thirdly if you're dead set against lithium I suggest you throw away anything you own that has a battery in it (including your current car).

I don't think a conflation between individual studies which can tend towards findings that favour their sponsor (which does happen) is in any way an argument to doubt the motivations of 97-99%* of the worlds climate scientists and the sheer body of work we're talking about. You're living in the realms of conspiracy theories to be perfectly honest. *Incidentally the major hold out was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. I think the thing you're describing is more accurate of the smaller percent than the bigger percent.

Sorry no, we're talking about the totality of people promoting electric vehicles including scientists & activists who are very much focussed on that. I conceded and included the profit making motive for those who have seen the direction of travel and seek to make money off it.

Of course. However their vested interest is either to reduce emissions, make money, or do both. The vested interest on the other side is to make money at all costs despite the environmental impact. Given the predicament the idea some car companies might profit off of something that needs to happen to cut emissions is fairly low on my concerns.

Hydrogen will be the source for aircraft, haulage etc. but cars I don't see it. Ultimately you're losing something like 75% of the energy generated to produce, transport and convert back hydrogen. It was electricity in the first place why not just transmit through the grid? I think the loss point to point for an EV is 10%. It's something we should be looking at for storage at the times of day when we have excess energy through renewables, for situations where it's not viable to park the vehicle and plug it in for long periods. On the flip side hydrogen gets used as a panacea by a lot of vested interests because the technology has been just a few years away for decades now and doesn't look all that closer. It's a very intentional ploy to say to people "just keep buying our oil and gas for a few more years and we've got hydrogen just over the horizon". The cigarette companies didn't go down this easily in the 50s I don't know why it's a surprise the much richer oil and gas companies might have some dirty tricks in their toolbox.

It would make so much sense in their integration into Wimbledon too! What have Fulham's colours got to do with the present day club?

There seems to be a few strings to this. Peel want out. Salford Council probably want out but can't be seen to be putting Salford RL into peril. Sale/Salford FC want to buy it and are the only viable bid on the table as Gerrard's feels a bit last minute. Outcome is the council buy it to get Peel out whilst protecting Salford RL. Not sure what the future holds but for the time being at least it's put Salford FC and Sale back in their box.

I quite like the away. They should charge more because the pattern is so complicated.

Pretty terrible shirt, and a bit of a veiled insult to the intelligence of the people of Bradford also.

I imagine I can get a lot of things I don't want fairly quickly.

Put my order in for a Kia Niro through work, expected to get it sometime in Feb. Wanted something solid with a good range for trips up to Cumbria.

It's one for people of my generation. From 93 to about 2007 it was unusual for a Widnes home shirt not to feature red. I really like it for this reason, so long as the shorts are black of course.

Lovely stuff. Only slight issue I have is the names on the home shirt, I know it's a nice move but it always makes the shirts look a bit busy. Also the away looks like the United top they lost to Barcelona in the CL final in 2011 but not that much and it was ages ago anyway.

They look like Kryten from Red Dwarf.