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#21 scrape_goose

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Sep 29 2010, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Northern / Bulls:
Daio Powell
Gary van Bellen
Joe Simpson

Good players for other clubs but I thought they were going to be really special
Paul King
Bob Roberts


Joe Simpson, he didn't even play for 1st team did he? How about Glenn Barraclough?
Nigel Whitehouse at Halifax

#22 Dave T

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:07 PM

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Warrington weren't a major force at the time. Wigan was just for one season (IIRC) - I don't know why he left. I remember him best as Oldham's 'super-sub', when he used to change games, coming off the bench.

Yeah, I think it was ultimately injuried that did him. Warrington had a half decent team at the time (late 80's) and had he reached his potential we could have been better. His career with us was interrupted and then he signed for Wigan, and I'm not sure whether he was always just third or fourth choice or whether he had further injuries.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:07 PM

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Tony Myler - The original Nigel Wright, he had everything:
Big defence, athleticism, decent speed, physicality, a step and superb hands.

Despite a superb career and some topperformances for GB his career was interupted and eventually cut short by injuries and he never reached his full potential



Tony Myler was great. To even talk about Nigel Wright in the same breath is crazy.
Tony Myler had the best hands you could ever wish to see and, if it wasn't for his unluckiness with injuries he would have been an all time great.
His one spell in Australia with Balmain had the Aussies drooling and, if he'd been able to play more games, they would have been asking Wally who? when talking about great stand-offs.
Tony Myler is the God of stand-offs - and please don't anyone talk about Shaun Edwards or Garry Schofield as being fit to lace his boots.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (JackBauer @ Sep 29 2010, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tony Myler was great. To even talk about Nigel Wright in the same breath is crazy.
Tony Myler had the best hands you could ever wish to see and, if it wasn't for his unluckiness with injuries he would have been an all time great.
His one spell in Australia with Balmain had the Aussies drooling and, if he'd been able to play more games, they would have been asking Wally who? when talking about great stand-offs.
Tony Myler is the God of stand-offs - and please don't anyone talk about Shaun Edwards or Garry Schofield as being fit to lace his boots.


You are joking?
He was good but not THAT good.

Edited by terrywebbisgod, 29 September 2010 - 01:21 PM.

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#25 The Best The Beautiful The Only

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:13 PM

Craig Huby. TBF.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE (JackBauer @ Sep 29 2010, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tony Myler was great. To even talk about Nigel Wright in the same breath is crazy.
Tony Myler had the best hands you could ever wish to see and, if it wasn't for his unluckiness with injuries he would have been an all time great.
His one spell in Australia with Balmain had the Aussies drooling and, if he'd been able to play more games, they would have been asking Wally who? when talking about great stand-offs.
Tony Myler is the God of stand-offs - and please don't anyone talk about Shaun Edwards or Garry Schofield as being fit to lace his boots.


I remember Myler - a good player - hardly a Roger the Dodger though! tongue.gif
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:19 PM

ellery hanley.if only he had been a fluent passer of the ball he could have been a legend.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:54 PM

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He had a hell of a boot on him. I remember a televised Challenge Cup match against Warrington, when he took a drop out under the posts. It landed closer to the opposition's tryline than some of the kickoffs in that match!


when he played at oldham he took a drop out that actualy hit the posts at the other end of the pitch, if it hadn't it would have gone dead, it had bounced first but I've never seen anyone kick a ball so far.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:56 PM

Lee Milner- Lee was on the Great Britain Academy Under 18s tour of Australia in the late 90s and tipped to be a star. He won man of the series and signed for Huddersfield Giants from Greetland Allrounders, then later Home town club Halifax. I was fortunate to play in the sasme side as him and he certainly had the talent-but not the work ethic to be a star or Professional. He returned to Greetland but then drifted out the game. What a waste of talent. No doubt there are others who have done the same.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:16 PM

Danny Wilson for me one of the most naturally gifted players ive ever seen.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:22 PM

Myler was great, just had his career cut short. Hanley is a Legend.

At Leeds in the very early 80's was the MacIntosh brothers, they were going to replace Holmsey. They didn't and he went on another 7 or 8 seasons.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:34 PM

Anyone remember a guy called John McAtee who started out at St.Helens? I remember reading around 1991,92-ish what a fantastic prospect he was, and how he was destined for a long career at the top. A mate of mine who played against him at junior level often cites him as the most talented player he ever came up against.
Sadly, I don't think he made more than a couple of first-team appearances for Saints, and vanished from the pro ranks after a short and unsuccessful spell at Swinton.
Closer to home, I'd have to say that Dean Lawford is the biggest waste of talent I've seen. The guy had everything you could possibly want in a top scrum-half - superb kicking game, superb passing game, great organisational ability and a decent turn of speed. How he only managed a relative handful of games in the top flight only Dean will be able to explain. The guy could have gone right to the pinnacle of the sport and didnt achieve even a quarter of what he should have.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE (FrankDrebin @ Sep 29 2010, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone remember a guy called John McAtee who started out at St.Helens? I remember reading around 1991,92-ish what a fantastic prospect he was, and how he was destined for a long career at the top. A mate of mine who played against him at junior level often cites him as the most talented player he ever came up against.
Sadly, I don't think he made more than a couple of first-team appearances for Saints, and vanished from the pro ranks after a short and unsuccessful spell at Swinton.


i remember mcatee playing inthe conference at eccles a couple of seasons back would turn up smellinglike a brewery but destroy you all the more

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:44 PM

Lee Radford was tipped to be a great aswell. Fantastic player none the less, but young reputation suggested more.

Luke Robinson also.


Liam McGovern - Got top gun at the GB & Ireland U16's camp in 2001. Signed for Saints but never made it.

Edited by The Best The Beautiful The Only, 29 September 2010 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (scrape_goose @ Sep 29 2010, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Joe Simpson, he didn't even play for 1st team did he? How about Glenn Barraclough?
Nigel Whitehouse at Halifax



My memory is a bit hazy about the sequence of events, but basically:-

- twenty or so games under Peter Fox as a teenager; first choice goalkicker and elusive runner
- released by Brian Smith
- went to RU but never really made it

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Sep 29 2010, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My memory is a bit hazy about the sequence of events, but basically:-

- twenty or so games under Peter Fox as a teenager; first choice goalkicker and elusive runner
- released by Brian Smith
- went to RU but never really made it


I didn't know he played 1st team, I played with his brother at West Bowling, didn't his Dad play for Northern? I thought he went to Bradford Salem did he play at a higher level RU?

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 03:02 PM

karl pratt?
stuart reardon?
coyle brothers?

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (scotthouston2008 @ Sep 29 2010, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
stuart reardon?


Spot on


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Posted 29 September 2010 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (scrape_goose @ Sep 29 2010, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spot on


harry sutherland trophy in 2003?? then due to injuries or whatever, got proggresively worse.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 03:59 PM

Barry Williams had everything you'd ever want in a loose forward. Exceptional pace, brute strength, excellent hands and a sublime kicking game. He could have been one of the best forwards in the world. Unfortunately he had neither the dedication or commitment and never came close to fulfilling his potential.

Another one that springs to mind is a lad called Shaun Boylan, who was an extremely talented stand off from the Wigan area. He played a few games for Workington on amateur forms when Billy McGinty was our coach and he was absolutely outstanding on the pitch. However, lets just say he was 'a bit of a lad' off the field which severely hampered his progression in the game....
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