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ckn

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In Topic: Ukip gets its first MP

31 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

I heard someone on the local radio yesterday say that this Tory MP in Clacton is "one in a million".  That means there are probably 63 more people like him in the UK alone.  My brain put that to the reports that there are around 60 other MPs actively touting UKIPpery within the Tory party.  That's about right then, he's one in a million.  Probably the first time in my life that I've heard that phrase be close enough to accurate.


In Topic: Rotherham

31 August 2014 - 12:54 PM

To take forward the points made by The Terminator, here's how I see the whole thing. 

 

Point 1: A group of vile people committed atrocious acts against an absolute minimum of 1400 children.  These vile people happened to be mainly of British-Pakistani origin.

Point 2: A dangerously negligent bunch of public servants across many different agencies ignored this situation despite being informed both individually by victims and collectively by reports, inquests and other agencies.

 

The reason Point 1 was allowed to go on for so long was the actions in Point 2.  I see it as almost proven beyond any doubt, never mind reasonable doubt, that one of the key reasons that SOME of the people in Point 2 failed to act was because of their idiot belief that someone would call them racist.  Others did nothing because they just didn't care about the victims.

 

The point raised above about the Eastern European gang being convicted previously would be a good comparison, there's far less reluctance to tackle criminal gangs of Eastern Europeans.  That DOES NOT mean that the Eastern Europeans are any less or more vile than the British Pakistani group in this Rotherham situation or the vile actions of any other group against children, including the abuses of the Catholic church in the past or the showbiz stars.  For me, the situation is much like the 70s where the likes of Saville would get away with very blatant abuse simply because no-one thought they could challenge him without retribution or criticism.  The same standard of criminally negligent people are in power, just different faces and names on their ID cards.

 

The saddest thing is that the post by The Terminator at 1:07 this morning highlights just how much we still look down on the unfortunates in society.  It's a growing problem that I genuinely think is worse than the 70s and 80s, at least back then communities existed that allowed at least some sort of community safety net.  Now, we pay care workers as little as the law allows in the name of "efficiency" when they do one of the most sensitive jobs in the country, dealing with those who can't help themselves, that's alright though as it means we can cut income tax rates for the very richest in society.


In Topic: Uninteresting Trivial Facts

29 August 2014 - 10:15 PM

A few cases of nice wine and a bottle or two of Islay should help bump up your bill.

From Sainsburys?  Their alcohol is always way overpriced.  Especially when I have my birthday vouchers for Laphroaig still to spend, 10% off the distillery price.


In Topic: Rotherham

29 August 2014 - 05:46 PM

sickening and by no means unique to this racial/religious group.

No, not at all.  I'm sure most of us who grew up in rough areas knows the treatment handed out to "grasses" who dared to report violent crimes against them to the police.


In Topic: Rotherham

29 August 2014 - 05:21 PM

An excellent article in today's Guardian on what happens when a victim comes forward within some British Pakistani communities.