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Why won't we see him in a Batley shirt again? He's been no worse than many others this year, Fax fans still like him and would have him back by the sound of things. I hope Lee reads this, I think he's been very hard done by. The RFL seem more interested that some wimp's feelings don't get hurt than actually coming down on people who actually commit foul play and actually hurt someone. Pat loses his cool in a tense situation and gets banged like nobody's business, yet someone like Sinfield for example sticks the nut on somebody, then cries how sorry he is and gets away with a 2 match ban. The current and recently past officers of the RFL have spoiled our game beyond all recognition over the past 10 or so years, changing so many rules, bending over backwards to please the Aussies so that we hardly recognise it any more, and now they don't even figure that foul play is actually a crime anymore, instead following the national trend of looking after any minority or whatever at the expense of the game. Lee, ignore what's being said, stick with it boy and give it another year, all these fans who plead with us every week to 'support the lads' then in the next breath rip their guts out.
Blake could have played 6, but then if Nicholson had been straight in at 9 we'd have been a man short as sub. As Kear likes 4 forwards, then as you say Martin isn't quite big enough, but we were told that he was a centre/2nd rower when he signed, so who's judgment is right? We then put Brev in the centre who doesn't like playing there by his own admission. Everybody complains about Faal, why? He's had a few good games for us but has never had a long run in the side, even when not suspended, and he always did well against us for Dewsbury. Then of course we've got the rediculous situation of 2 forwards out on loan, whilst we're borrowing off somebody else, and we're told that we couldn't bring 1 back because it was still within the first month of his loan. Pardon? If we're short, then that loanee is our player, clubs who have loaned us players have been quick enough to have theirs back when needed, why not us? This season has been a complete disaster on the playing, recruitment and administrative sides and needs putting to bed asap in the hope that this close season the board and coach will get out there and hammer a few doors down to give us a squad to storm back. Get out to SL clubs and pick up players who are really knocking hard on the door yet not quite there yet, or even a few old heads getting shunted sideways, but who fancy picking up another medal before they opt for pipe and slippers. Get in touch with Glen Tomlinson, get his views on an Aussie or two, anything to attract a bit of flair and style, that's been almost non-existent without Black and sometimes missing with him, and I'm pretty sure we've seen the last of him in a Dogs shirt. How long is Leek away from fit, he looked able until his injury, he must be able to start next season. Recruitment now has to take centre stage and be better thought out than this years', forget Giants and there non-existent DR help. Look how many we've had from them this season only to see them get called back and moved on somewhere else. We need our own men, men proud to be in our team.
Campbell should be back (assuming he stays and repays the club's stance) so he can fill in more than capably at no1. Scott, Gledhill, Chandler, Leatherbarrow are on my list, hope Leek gets fit as he was looking promising when he came, as I'm sure we've seen the last of Ben Black. Rowe too should stay as he's a full hearted type, Rettie's already signed, Nicholson and Blake haven't been wastes. What has been a waste is loaning out 2 players when we've been bringing loans in. Leary always looked confident to me, in his first season JK said he was one for the future, yet got game time in most of the important games last year, only to find that his future still didn't arrive this year despite again playing in the 'big' games. Brennan has been a disappointment I agree, but again he's only 20, needed to be subbing and getting on to learn from Davies and Applegarth. Now, there's a couple of names! Will Davies stay and go down a league? Will Applegarth ever see out a season? I know it's been club policy in the past to be guarded and gentlemanly in transfer dealings, but now is the time to bare the Bulldogs teeth and get stuck in to the market. Assuming that we are joined by Barrow, Swinton, Rochdale and NW Crusaders, rest assured that they won't sit back and stick with what they've got, so we have to compete with them in order to get back. it's not just a case of sending down any old team to Coventry and Hemel etc and expecting them to roll over and respect our past. We need to be doing the rounds of Super League clubs, looking for either promising young players who can't quite force their way in, or pick up a couple of old heads who are just on the verge of being squeezed out, but who fancy they just might pick up another medal or two before hitting the rocking chair. Knock on Koiukash's door, we've sent him enough players, ask him for one, Saints as well. Just don't go with another small, paper thin squad and expect the DR system (if it's kept) to work better for us, we had to my count 8 different players from Giants at some stage of the season, none of whom put in any lengthy stint and half of whom were taken back and sent somewhere else. If we don't re-appear in this division then I can see us eventually joining the likes of Bramley, Huyton, Blackpool etc, teams who just get let go by the RFL. The board must take action now. I wouldn't for a moment question their commitment, if they hadn't been committed, we wouldn't have had the good run we've enjoyed over the last 5 seasons, but something revolutionary has to rear its' head..or else.
ELPwhatever; remember games last 80 minutes, it's no good saying 'we were 32-14 up' and then... that Fev 'let' Batley back is their fault, but Batley, back to a bit of form, played for the whole 80, and if they're keen enough to do that, give them credit. Think back how many teams last year were beaten at the death by us due to playing the whole 80. And, on the original topic about refs, there isn't a good one amongst them, not one who will make a decision for himself without passing it on to the video ref for him to get it wrong, forward passes are par for the course, knock-ons given when the ball clearly goes backwards or the guy who drops it is facing his own posts, reluctance to show red cards, taking the easy way out by going on report, which, if a guilty decision comes out, benefits the next opponents instead of the team against whom the player is playing when he commits the offence etc etc etc. What passes between the assessors, the RFL and their officials? It appears that they are either blind when watching, or think that the ref's performance is acceptable and are unwilling/unable to take any sort of corrective action.
I think that JK has, maybe not directly but in a number of thinly veiled comments, already suggested that his recruitment was ill-judged, but he as always has to work within a budget and if better players than those we lost were not available within that budget, what can he do? As I mentioned before, he has pulled in players from all levels over his 2 years with us and has had great success. This time, maybe one or two aren't hitting potential but most were mourned by the fans of clubs they left, so where does that leave us? I certainly wouldn't advocate that KN and board go out on a limb and put the club in hock, nor is sacking the coach a clever move, for at least 2 reasons: firstly I believe that JK really admires the club as a whole and secondly is there anyone else who could come in and motivate these players any more? Much is being made of Kear's TV work, but I believe he is fully committed to Batley before all else and his outside commitment doesn't affect his ability to coach. I don't know how this is going to pan out, and whether Ben Black's long awaited and clouded return will make the difference, but as they say 'patience is a virtue (and it's also an operetta by Gilbert & Sullivan!!). Let's just hope that we can keep above the dreaded drop-line this time and hope for better recruitmwnt next time.
Halifax should just remember which of the teams was playing at LSV in the Grand Final, after winning AWAY at both Leigh and Featherstone, therefore why shouldn't we go to The Shay and win? It's OK thinking back to last seasons' games against the 4 teams who finished above us, but that was what it was- last season! This season started badly and the usual 'Batley aren't good enough' song started up, but now which team isn't quite good enough, despite believing their own hype?
Probably the whole of RL is looking to Batley at the moment to see what is done. If the players are kept on, then it says that Batley condone the breaking of the law. To me it's a simple, obvious act. Also, after Sunday, it shows what many of us have already said-the backs are sadly lacking, and now are 2 down in number as well. And yes, people have paid to sponsor these players, so replacements should be sourced.
Sorry to be a stirrer; good or bad, useful or not, they broke the law of which they were aware. End of story, we need a full squad NOW, not in 12 months time. they must both go and be replaced quickly. Said right from the beginning that we had recruited poorly in the backs and has been proved already. Do something about it NOW, not down the line.
I agree that their coverage was sometimes sloppy and sometimes dropped out altogether, but they covered the game from the poor mans' point of view, those teams who would never get near a TV game if left to SKY. I hope they are going to cover the WHOLE of the game, not just the top lot.
Clubs can't afford these days with such scrutiny to be 'on the fiddle', there are too many checks and balances along with the chance of criminal convictions etc. I would have said the figure was fairly accurate, definitely not over the 3,000 as suggested in other posts. Both clubs work together for the good of the Heavy Woollen area and have a good relationship, so doubt very much if one would fleece the other. With regards to who had the biggest support on the day, from the actual team shirts on display it would certainly appear that Batley did have the upper hand, and certainly there was more noise from them, and yes I would agree with the comments from Rams fans that it's a shame they only turn out for the Christmas booze up game. However, look at it sensibly; let's assume the crowd was split 50/50, that's almost 1,200 each. How come then that average home crowds for both clubs (including any travelling fans) is around 750/850? That means that BOTH clubs are suffering week in week out from the Boxing day totals, so Rams fans who were a little derogatory about fickle Batley fans should also look at their own doorstep. As someone else (other than me) has said, 2 strong teams around here can only be good for the game.
Well, well! Having just ploughed my way through 7 pages of related (and unrelated) posts I'll say again; Moore is a terrific goal-kicker and has a good eye for the line. His field kicking is poor, rarely gets a result from it, always too far ahead of his chasers, often down a defenders' neck, never seen him make an effort at a 40/20. Flanagan is a live-wire, what you see is what you get, 100% all the time, great for team spirit on the pitch, temper a bit suspect though, might spend a game or two at the RFL's pleasure if you get my meaning! Hirst is a big lad who has rarely hit the heights, rarely comes on to the ball at pace, but has massive legs which can take him an extra 20 yards with men on his back, so swings and roundabouts. If John Kear hasn't been able to change him, don't back anyone else to. ot a great handler, will lose you plenty possession. Also, Walmsley, he's a poor handler, not the biggest 2nd rower you'll find and IMO always was more of a squad player that a star, and at 25 going on, can't see much improvement. So that's my assessment of what you've got, time will tell if you agree or don't. there are 2 we'll miss, 2 we won't, but which 2 I'll leave you to find out for yourselves!!
In light of the sad news that Ronnie has passed, I believe it would be fitting that the stadium should be re-named The Ron Earnshaw Mount Pleasant Stadium. We have not really taken to the re-branding of The Love RL.com Stadium,and in view of the fact that Ronnie has put far more into Batley RLFC than Love RL will ever do, I feel it would be a statement to the whole RL community .of just how much this man meant to Batley RLFC. Please support this idea and let the board know of your feelings.
I presume he means back on loan which is allowed. Bye to Walton (thought he might be back on loan too), Maun, Hemingway, Moore, Flanagan, Hirst, Mennell, Walmsley. Hope your shirts from yesterday remind you of the good times. Welcome to those we know about- Scott, Leatherbarrow, Chandler, Nicholson and those we don't. You've got something to live up to, give it your best!!