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  1. 14 points
    Interesting assertion, because it goes to the heart of the DUP. For a hundred years the Ulster Unionist Party was the pro-Union party of Northern Ireland. The DUP refused to have anything to do with the Good Friday Agreement (and every other attempted solution), both the negotiating and them implementation of it, which the UUP under David Trimble and Ken Maginnis worked incredibly hard to achieve. The effort required to bring the entirety of the Unionist/Loyalist community with them was incredible. The DUP, meanwhile, stood on the sidelines throwing insults and threats, and encouraging the involvement of violent men. Once the hard work had been done they continued to criticise the UUPs actions, and the process as a whole, to the point that the peace process almost collapsed and the majority of Unionist voters switched to them. The DUP did this out of cynical exploitation of the fears and doubts of the Unionist community. Having taken all the risk, and the retribution, the UUP got none of the reward, being reduced to such a point that they allied with the Tories in 2010. Ian Paisley, besides being wiling to encourage the murder of innocent Catholics, was a cynical, manipulative, right wing (borderline-fascist) religious extremist - and the DUP was not only build in his image but continues to operate in such a way to this day. There is a long list of senior DUP people who were actively involved in terrorist (sorry, "paramilitary") activities. Many, many people were murdered because of them. You say they were not the political wing of the UDA, and that's true, instead they simply formed their own organisation called Ulster Resistance which worked with and alongside the UDA/UVF/LVF. They are every bit as despicable as the IRA/Sinn Fein. If I'd had the misfortune i 1978 to be born in Northern Ireland, rather than England, the DUP leadership would have been perfectly happy to see me killed, simply for being Catholic. In fact, they may even have been complicit in it by virtue of buying the weapons used and preaching the hatred that entered the minds and hearts of so many young, scared, impressionable young protestants. I've been one of Jeremy Corbyn's most consistent critics on here, as a Labour member, particularly over the people he has associated with in the past. That you are so readily (might even say desperately) prepared to defend Theresa May doing a deal with these people speaks very badly of you.
  2. 14 points
    Theresa May getting trolled by the police:
  3. 9 points
    Come on Geordie you can do better than that. I could argue the old vote saved the Tories from obliteration, or that the sandal vote saved the Lib Dems. The fact that Labour got the youth vote out is the triumph. It is hilarious seeing old farts like JohnM insinuating that young voters were uninformed or lack the life experience to vote properly (=Tory). As if life experience leads you to understand that a sour-faced robot belching out three-word slogans is the only sage choice.
  4. 6 points
    The £120,000 refurbishment of the changing rooms on the Marauders home ground will be completed for the start of the 2017/18 season.
  5. 6 points
    (Pulls face like Sid James) Gets my vote anyway.
  6. 6 points
    So the Conservatives won.....but lost.....Labour lost......but won....the SNP won and lost in Scotland but still won and the Conservatives won in Scotland but lost.....the government was Tory but now can't be even though it is still and they need to make some Northern Irish chaps Tory so they can be in charge even though they were and still are.....Ukip lost but because of Brexit they've already won......the winner (May) is being told to resign because she didn't win and she won't because she won. All seems perfectly straight forward to me!
  7. 5 points
    Grown up conversation clearly requires more than just age, might a suggest a wee break till your willing to engage in conversation, his appeal to the youth vote is intriguing and worthy of debate, shame your not willing to have it.
  8. 5 points
  9. 4 points
    I thought you were going to say Firey Jack in their jockstraps!!!!!
  10. 4 points
  11. 4 points
    Not me matey. I'm of that generation but I didn't have much time for hippy dreamers and I'd rather cut off my right hand than vote Tory.
  12. 4 points
    Money is one thing, but the biggest challenge we have always had within South London and Kent boarders is that rugby union is the dominant sport. A lot of clubs are trying to build off of a union clubs and become dependant on union players. I know this as when we were the Bears we made this mistake. This is why ground selection is so hard. The Silverbacks approached many clubs and mainly targeted the ones with no rugby association and we had many rejections. Finally we found a privately owned ground were we could create our own economy bubble of Rugby league players. The club has sign off for a 4g pitch to be built. Current space for 8 pitches, changing facilities and family environment. But the biggest problem is the RFL do have money but spend it in the wrong way. They should be visiting existing club locations to see what facilities are the future of rugby league and developing them.
  13. 3 points
    I think you have chosen a bad example citing Batley. We are a small well run club, both financially and in the community. For instance next Sunday we are having a free admission day in respect of the late MP Jo Cox for closer cohesion in the community. Most people on here are usually very positive about us and we do give a lot to the game and have done so for over 100 years.?
  14. 3 points
    No, it's about pointing out the hypocrisy of attacking Corbyn for his terrorist links but turning a blind eye to the terrorist links of the Tories new best friends.
  15. 3 points
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/40233364 A great servant to the game, I hope he goes out on a high with either a Challenge Cup or Grand Final win
  16. 3 points
    There is a rumour going around that although it will be free to get in it will cost £10 to get out - double that before full time. IMO, of course.
  17. 3 points
    The one thing that's upsetting me this season is how well Wakey are doing A very good friend of mine passed away a few months ago and im gutted that he didn't get to see them this year and how well they are doing. For his sake...Up the Trin!
  18. 3 points
    Surely the Tories have an active choice. They can get into bed with the DUP, a party aligned with terror, or not?
  19. 3 points
  20. 3 points
    http://www.to13.com/actualites/super-league-ian-lenagan-et-wigan-soutiens-de-poids-pour-la-candidature-du-to/ The attached link is a record of the soirée evening in Toulouse, 14.5.2012, regarding entry into SL. For those who don't read French very well:- Lenegan is introduced as a President of a very powerful SL Club. Lenegan, who has a house in France and knows Toulouse well is at the dinner, as are TO President and officials, Deputy Mayor, Vice President of Chamber of Commerce and others. Lenegan gives his backing to TO and that its 'the right moment' for their candidacy into SL. Lenegan is quoted as, after his meeting with Leeds, Saints, Warrington and Wigan of course, they, 'in unison' of 'pushing' TO into SL. Lenegan also sees TO as a 'formidable development opportunity'. Key points came from Lenegans speech which were noted as: The training of French players capable of evolving at this competition level. - Nowhere is there any a mention of this being a 'must have' or criteria to enter SL. The development of a viable financial plan. - Obvious for any business commitment. Television coverage in France. - The attached link indicates that there was to be link into Al Jazeera, France in June of that year and also retransmission of SL. - Nowhere is there a mention of TV deals being 'must have' or criteria to enter SL. A stadium and infrastructures corresponding to the specifications of the competition - SL have criteria for stadia, which Lenegan alludes to. Lenegan did say he, Saints, Leeds, Wire and Wigan of course, where 'pushing' for TO candidacy into SL. Lenegan did say he was 'convinced of the importance of a second French club' in SL. Lenegan chatted with the TO President, Zaluendo and other TO Officials and said he was impressed with the Club. Lenegan attended the meeting, 14.5.2012, as CEO of Wigan, not 'boss of Super League'. Lenegan did not state TO would not be allowed to enter SL without the aforementioned 'Key points'. Hope this clears up the fabricated Lenegan rubbish that keeps getting repeated time and again. He appears to have actually given his backing to TO.
  21. 3 points
    It looks like we may be sending the EU our Conservative and Unionist Negotiating Team. I hope they can come up with a handy acronym...
  22. 2 points
    AGHHHH. It seems there is rugger being played somewhere and I keep getting asked what I think. We have discussed it on here ad infinitum but the battle is lost, Rugby is not our game. That 5 letter word may be our heritage but its the millstone that's holding us back because rugger is carp and sportsfans know it.
  23. 2 points
    Sadly Greg Mulholland, a strong advocate for RL and vice chairman of the All Party Parliamentary RL group lost his Leeds West seat yesterday. What will be the repercussions for this group, did any others lose their seat and are there any willing to step up? Given Greg was such an outspoken promoter of all things RL, I can't help but fear it will lose prominence
  24. 2 points
    He also has experience of player development and creating elite performance environments which will be really useful given that some of the younger French players and the national team want to go to the next level. I actually think this is a good pick, I wouldn't expect champagne rugby but expect him to improve their defence.
  25. 2 points
    Toppy, You are doing the Parksider trick of making things up. There are plenty of posts on here from Labour suppporters condemning Corbyns links with the IRA. There are a couple from lefties saying that the alliance is one of necessity rather than one of choice (as Corbyn's IRA links were). Corbyn associating with terrorists was reasonably condemned. I am surprised you claim to have missed that. Now the Tories are in a position where they are oblidiged to share Government is the political wing of terrorists (let us not go into the silly argument on that, or at least do so on the other thread). Again, you post disingenuous nonsense.
  26. 2 points
    The DUP thinks that line dancing is sinful... so they are not always wrong!
  27. 2 points
  28. 2 points
    Seems a natural ally for the party of Law and Order.
  29. 2 points
    If Mamo scores another try do you think Catalans will have time to bung Lou Bega over the tannoy system?
  30. 2 points
    As was pointed out on AQ last night, how can the British Government pretend to be honest brokers between the two factions in NI, when they are dependent upon one of them in order to stay in power?
  31. 2 points
    In 'normal' times she'd be gone. To be seen delaying negotiating the brexit deal to have a 2 month leadership race would be catastrophic. Another election would also go down badly. Screwed if they sack her, screwed if they don't...
  32. 2 points
    She could attempt a minority government. Or given that Labour did not oppose Article 50 she could even try and find common ground enough for a grand coalition on that one issue (which will be the defining one of this parliament). Or any other options she wants to look at. For starters.
  33. 2 points
    Is this the MPLA Is the UDA Is this the IRA Oh no its Theresa May Or just another TORY John Lydon 1977 With a couple of adjustments.
  34. 2 points
    WTF has this got to with Man of The Match??????????????????????????????????????? as a moderator you should know better.... STOP DERAILING THREADS!!!!!!!! thank you imo of course
  35. 2 points
    It would explain why they've been so poor!
  36. 2 points
    Nowt to say we're gonna lose all 3 games Turn up do your best It's a sport and anybody can win 3 hard games will build character
  37. 2 points
    He had a sizeable youth vote well before this election process started, I don't think its as simple as promising freebies, perhaps us old farts should consider that there maybe more to winning the youth vote than simple bribing them.
  38. 2 points
    Young people grow older. Experience overtakes idealism. People change. Corbyn promised very expensive freebies to university students. No wonder they voted for him in big numbers. By the time those same students have children and a job they have to hold down they may not think the same way.
  39. 2 points
    Yeh Cato I think we will scrape in & that will be an underachieving with a squad that should be more than capable of top 6 never mind 8. I'll predict a win Sunday & we will give Toronto their scare of the season in a spirited loss. Times is ticking but after Toronto we have Coventry away,Skolars home and probably a must win v home game Keighley. Need minimum 6 hopefully 8 from our next 5 Were good enough in my opinion, Coach and players need to prove it Utt
  40. 2 points
    Better not because the RFL certainly cannot run a sport never mind a club.
  41. 2 points
    He started at Union Treiziste Catalane, then went to Pia Donkeys (a deceased club that formed a shitload of great players including Grésèque, Fages, Boudebza and Navarrete) was signed by Lezignan then by Palau, had two injury plagued seasons and quit. He had a few games for Algeria 7s, was called by Catalans reserves and will make his debut at 28. A true feel good story me thinks.
  42. 2 points
    On a wider note, Labour won back votes in its heartlands from UKIP that were expected to go straight to the Tories. Those votes would have been lost if a smooth pro-remain candidate such as Chuka Umunna had been standing. Similarly there would have been no increase in the youth vote or revival in Wales or Scotland. Whether Labour stick with Corbyn for 2022 if this government lasts that long is debatable, a more centrist candidate might be needed by then, but Labour would have been annihilated under pretty much any other leader. They put together a coherent popular and costed manifesto that put May on the back foot from day 2.
  43. 2 points
    Setting up a meeting with the BBC to discuss wider coverage and attitude towards the sport on the network was definitely meaningful. I believe had positive changes. It allowed a frank and open conversation about how the game was seen by the BBC. That we need to treat the BBC as its component parts and not a single entity. Examples being Super League Show and the politics & budget of why its shown at the hours it is. After that Dave Woods was taken as RL correspondent and you will notice more exposure for Rugby League. I.E. Songs of praise. Sadly our sport has such poor leadership, we continue to pursue actions that make it harder for us to establish any kind of national media platform. But generally speaking, no. It had become more about photo opportunities and MPs not genuinely willing to work with people on issues in the game or discuss them. But we have a serious issue in the game of having no advocacy element any more. If you go back and look at the work of Harry Edgar, BARLA and many others.
  44. 2 points
    Give us time, this youth wave is very significant. I was enthused by politics as a teenager and I've been an activist all my life. What makes you think the Tories will be any better next time ? The same old tired policies mumbled out by the same old politicians. You only know one way - screw the working man or woman whilst pulling the wool over their eyes. Talk about looking after the working man or woman whilst actually removing any legal protection for them. You must think all of us are stupid.
  45. 2 points
    A populist more left wing agenda hasn't won you an election either and whilst has seen your vote share increase, the Tories has done as well despite having one of the worst records I have seen in office, a deeply out-of-depth PM and the worst campaign in living memory. You could argue the youth vote saved Labour from obliteration at this election...
  46. 2 points
    Link doesn't work anymore but I did manage to find the whole post. http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/union-v-league.402354/page-13#post-8320918
  47. 2 points
    I've heard both figures repeated by both sides all day. I'm not quite sure what you're driving at but the reason for Labour supporters being chuffed surely isn't that they think the party is suddenly a world-beating machine. Some of the politicians are suggesting that, and that is their job. The point is that the Tories called this election, on their own terms, and with 20+ point leads on a Labour leader who almost every media outlet was depicting as a joke, a loser and a terrorist until the day of the election. To pick up 40% of the popular vote in the circumstances is quite incredible and suggests that Labour could run a winning campaign under this leadership with proper time to prepare. At this point, with the more moderate and media-friendly MPs now far more disposed to Corbyn, they should start that preparation now and work out how to win the extra seats which would won get them in play as a potential government.
  48. 2 points
    Yes, goalposts and moving do spring to mind.
  49. 2 points
    There are quite a lot of houses decorated like that in Belfast. Bob8 seems to think they are all painted by order of the leadership of the DUP. I rather doubt that they are.
  50. 2 points
    You dont have to read them. If someone is so enthusiastic they want to post a thread good on 'em. Carry on ojx post what you like!!!