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He has loads of potential and over here is playing at a fantastic level but there are several 2nd rows over there who regularly play at the next level,over there he would soon join them but not here.

You are spot on Harry, also we have had a massive drop off of quality forwards, if you look back at 3 burgess boys , James Graham, Peacock, Ellis, Morley,Hill,Walmsley, the new set don't have opposition packs looking over.

Is basically not as good especially in the pack.

Walker sometime in August.

It's all subjective, as technology improves it easier to highlight mistakes, the pool is small at the top end but it is crucial you have someone at the top guiding the officials, we clearly have struggled for some time, the VR is the easiest to get right because you have time, but again human nature plays it's part.

I wonder if Trump one of our celebrity fans. MWGA make Warrington (Washington) great again.

Good shout but the title of this thread couldn't be more wrong, in the NRL he has next to no chance unless he joins certain teams.

The two players we need to push are out Walker and Ashton, both are game breakers. Powell is solid but Walker gives us speed and spark.

Or have them laughing, when both players go missing again in big games.

Williams has been awful?, he's carried Warrington when fit, some people don't watch players only when they are in against their team, But luckily Wane doesn't take into account fans opinions, Williams and Smith have produced for Wane and he knows he can rely on them.

Dufty back almost doubles the attacking threat and Harrison back after HIA protocols.

Well deserved, it's good to see heroes who represents the sport and town they played given recognition (updated), as I drive around RL towns we see more of it , from Brian Bevan and Mike Gregory in Warrington and the James Roby way in St Helens they are fabrics of the community.

Never heard that saying, to say that could be taken badly is an understatement, the rest it just like you say opinions.

Yes ones playing behind a top form pack with good backs losing only one game so far and one has been playing in a injury ravaged team whilst recovering from a big operation, reverse the circumstances would the opinion be the same . Lewis has played in big games ,finals etc but had little impact on them.

You mean they speak from both ends

Not really a sensible comment, he's been paid plenty of money from Wire, so you could ask has he repaid the investment Wire have used for his services. But plenty of legends have come through the gates at Warrington some with more successful careers so no one player is too good for Wire.

These last few posts remind me of talking about what I will do when I win big on the lottery, nice to talk but will never happen, Williams and Smith will start (if fit) but regardless our pack is not a patch on the Aussie pack so who ever plays is up against it.

If we get crushed it will be because the team is not good enough,not Williams and Smith.

He is 23

Is it still up to big Mal.

The game was far slower, the 5 yard rule prevented high collision. They may have been dirtier but that didn't create the same injuries, the pitch were softer and weights and training was less enforced and usually two nights a week. Pointless comparison and I am not a younger fan I played in those conditions and laws. Just a question do the NRL produce high levels of injuries because they train harder on firmer pitches so they should be dropping like flies.

One of the issues this year is the amount of younger players with long term injuries, Hayes over 12 months, wrench, Ashton, Lindop,Taylor- wray,, Leyland long term, add Williams, Dufty, Walker, mostly backs

Rovers in control, but on the last tackle plays Minchela stands to the side of the PTB and then runs across the ist marker preventing any pressure, surely this is obstruction.

I think we need to put this in perspective, SRD as a club ( not supporters) have behaved poorly (financially) for a number of seasons, it's almost like a salary cap breach, if they had not overspent the results on the field would have been no were near the level they reached. The only difference between another club doing a Melbourne and SRD is the latter cheated to stay competitive rather than win the competition, but it's still cheating. Calling professionals who's pay they are owed is not being paid or always late is poor,how many fans would keep turning up for their work and never get paid or wait for their wages( the players still have too pay bills and shop for food) it's only the club that spent money they didn't have the players can't.

You could have Lewis who doesn't show up in the big game or Connor who flatters to deceive or Williams who has produced in the NRL and SL. Also don't get carried away you won't play beat up teams every week.