Ivarr the Boneless

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  1. That's close to my recollection too. The initial deal was very generous with low rent, share of bar taking etc as Quins RU were interested in forming one unified club. The main drivers behind that left the RU set up and the idea died. After that it became a commercial ground share with market rent and I believe the cut of match day revenues went as well. The 'it's too expensive' line was certainly trotted out when we left for Barnet. Rumours that Quins RU told us to leave and that a key person in the RL set up wanted us out of a RU ground at all costs were also flying. Only a few people know for sure why we left and they have never gone public. It's also fair to say with Quins RU expanding the capacity and our gates falling it was becoming a pretty depressing place to watch the sport. Sadly where we ended up next was even more depressing and the move certainly lost the club a fair chunk of its support base.
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    All Golds-Oxford Merger, is it still on?

    I'm no longer in touch with anyone involved and don't know the current status but can confirm it was a very serious proposition and that they weren't a million miles off playing this season. I believe a coach was chosen and players were being approached before it was decided they needed a longer lead time to increase the chances of making it work.
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    McMeeken off to Union?

    Believe that's right. I'm sure I saw him playing for Farnborough Falcons years ago. I lived close to Farnborough RU back then and happened to walk past and spot an RL game in progress.
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    London Skolars funding (merged threads)

    As ever the devil is in the detail and at the moment we don't have the detail. However, at a time when one London RL benefactor is showing worrying signs of possibly tiring of his "investment", I'm not going to get too excited at the news another London team is looking to become more reliant upon benefactors. As I said the devil is in the detail and this may prove to be good news but a few alarms are ringing at the moment.
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    The RFL need to learn that expansion isn't a case of admitting a club and walking away. Supporting Deve!opment Officers are needed. If that can't be funded then quite simply don't do it on the cheap, it doesn't work. We've proven that a few times in recent years. Frankly we'd better off funding a Development Officer or two now with a view to a future semi-pro team than funding a semi-pro team and no development work. The briefest look at the story of Oxford RL shows that. Best wishes to all at West Wales. We had a few horrible days at Oxford but nothing quite like that. I hope the support you need is forthcoming. It certainly wasn't at Oxford.
  6. To be fair to the RFL, the didn't get rid of Oxford. As an ex season ticket holder my understanding is the club owners pulled the plug. The failure to provide agreed Development Officers and the decision to change C1 from a development league to a semi pro league were the RFL's watch and probably had a large influence on the Oxford owners decision but ultimately I believe it was their decision. Having said that, turning C1 amateur would be a massively retrograde step for southern RL. If they do it the player pathway down south is likely to collapse. You either then massively fund Broncos and southern development to preserve the southern pathway or wave goodbye to it. Talk of a serious standard southern conference now is total pie in the sky. We don't have either the players or the clubs. Wipe out Skolars and Hemel, and if you take away the pro elements I bet a fair few volunteers will walk, and it's likely to be hopeless down here.
  7. I think it will be me done too. Not through choice but I can't see a southern player pathway surviving this. If that collapses then I can't see any serious level RL being played down south in a few years. Living in Aldershot the decision to stop watching RL may be being made for me.
  8. A C1 owner I was speaking to last season predicted that C1 would be cut adrift. Looks like he may have been on to something. I'd agree the amateur distinction is important. If this is genuine amateurism then Hemel, Skolars and West Wales, in particular, will be hugely impacted. If this is still semi pro why use the word amateur?
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    London’s latest rising star

    Darrell started out at Cavs, he was sent down by his RU team to stay fit over the summer. I don't think the two younger lads played serious RL until they moved north. Mark 'Bulldog' Shaw could confirm if he passes through as he was a leading figure with Cavs then. To be honest I think it's a pretty impressive list irrespective of where the younger Griffin's first played RL. I don't think it's exhaustive either, Rob Worrincy and Will Sharp spring to mind.
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    London’s latest rising star

    Whilst I'd agree with you on the younger Griffins being northern developed, Michael Changing is very much a southern RL product. Born in Surrey, started in RU and converted after being released by London Irish. He moved north for career reasons, Tony Rea told him he was going to be released so he went on loan to Cas, earning a contract. He went to Fevfrom there and then returned south. Which other ones do you consider to be dubious? I've seen nearly all the other names play for Broncos at academy level. There's one more I'm not sure about but that's still a pretty impressive list.
  11. The army have played every CC home game in Aldershot in my decade or so living here. Can't see this playing anywhere else. Easy enough to get to from London by public transport, the No. 1 bus between Farnborough and Aldershot stations goes past the stadium. You get quick trains to Farnborough, Aldershot line is slower. (Note it is the smaller of the two stadiums, the bigger one is athletics and football.) Just off the A331 for drivers, follow signs to North Camp. Limited parking at the ground but parking is easily available close by, either in the car park just past the stadium towards Shot or in a car park behind the stadium. Sadly I'm due to be in Hartlepool that weekend.
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    Nigel Wood

    The government is currently hot on sports governance and taking this into consideration in terms of funding going forward. I know people in both ice hockey and volleyball and both governing bodies have had major governance overhauls recently. Both as a direct response to the government's direction of travel I'm told. I hope the RFL are squeaky clean on this and it doesn't raise any issues about governance. If so the long term ramifications could be serious for rugby league. What is currently being cited seems to raise some potential questions. Hopefully what has happened will be made clear and a full explanation provided. Failure to do so looks bad even if they are all squeaky clean and perception matters. Any potential sponsor will tell them that.
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    Eddie Hearn ' Monitoring RL'

    Barry lost substantial sums on Leyton Orient. In return ownership of the ground was transferred from the club to a company owned by the Hearns, he also paid the club some cash. The club was intended to pay rent to him in the not too distant future but the mess at Leyton Orient since his departure may well have seen that change. When asked why Barry was quoted as saying " I don't write off money. Why should I? It's not a charity." Doesn't sound too likely that he'd buy into a London club given neither own their own ground or seem particularly likely to break even putting together a good Championship side, never mind a competitive Superleague team.
  14. Lewis is a real prospect however unless London progress he'll have to move on to fulfill that potential. Lewis and Tuoyo Egodo both stood out as having real raw potential when I saw them on dual reg in Championship One. Tuoyo may yet have something to say about being the best London developed RL player, though next season is massive for him if he is to do so.
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    Toronto v Halifax venue

    The stadium is owned by the Council. They have a contract with a football team that gives them priority. Thetimings are out of their control. Both London and Oxford have had issues with pitch work, am well aware of that.