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They are right there on the ticket map, back half of the upper tier facing the TV camera. Not hard to find.

Yes they were coloured blue so either someone got it wrong or they've changed their strategy.

They've indicated the sales for Wembley are about 30k so far which is really good this far out. That would tie in with availability in the seating plan with lots gone but plenty still left in the lower bowl.

Whilst that's true they are on the centre line and I'd say the ones nearer the front are arguably better than some of the poorer £30 tickets.

And I'm guessing wasn't planned given it's not on the pricing category. This series was supposed to be different and yet here we go again, the people who were first in didn't get the option of the cheapest prices.

A drawn series is a win for Australia.

I've no recollection of the play off semi but as a general point the laws of the game alone don't tell you about the interpretations that referees and coaches have agreed on. I'm assuming it's in those interpretations that what Wilkin refers to comes from. So don't open up the Persecution Complex just yet.

Weilkin just gave a very informed sounding explanation for the torso ruling that defending players can't ground like that. I guess he's just been told that rather than knowing it.

Was Lewis's performance today that good, picking up the discussion on the BBC now? He got the decisive goal kick sure enough but apart from that he was hardly dominant.

Some of the presentation and shot selection from the BBC today has been poor.

Burgess obviously swung his arm there, why are they saying he had no option and it was all entirely innocent?

God this commentary team is abysmal.

It's time to mention Lee Oudenryn isn't it.

Who is The Tryline? They seem to be a bit of an a-hole.

Ryan Hall isn't as fast as Offiah, that's not particularly contentious. I do wonder how Offiah would turn out if he played Super League now, the game is very different and Hall is much more suited to the modern winger's role. Maybe Offiah's talents would overcome the changed game regardless. Conversely I don't imagine Hall would have been a winger in the pre-SL era; he might start out there but I imagine he'd end up in the second row over time.

Holbrook's personal circumstances meant he wasn't interested in coming back to Europe when the Leeds job was available. I wonder if that's changed.

It will be interesting to see if Wane's approach works outside his Wigan bubble. There's limited evidence from his England coaching career which has not exactly been stellar. So I'm doubtful but interested to see.

Hall hadn't got a clue what was going on, it was too fast for him to perceive if the Australian player had pushed it out or if he'd got to it first or if it had been grounded. A player's reaction is zero evidence for whether a try has been scored or not.

Not listened to that but the approach needed at Sheffield starting from scratch was obviously very different to what was needed at Leeds and London will be different again. But Hetherington will know that all too well.

I'm also interpreting this as signings from other clubs. Otherwise for Leeds you could say that day Doug Laughton popped round to Mr and Mrs Sinfield's house in Oldham in the early '90s is the winner.

Credibility is different to coaching ability. Bennett brings both, with Meninga/Burgess there the evidence that they could build a club and are top level club coaches is rather thin.

Older Leeds fans say Lewis Jones so I'd say him from the first 60 years of the sport's history and Jamie Peacock from the second 60.

Hetherington is the most successful Rugby League administrator of the past 50 years and here he is written off as a "well meaning owner" and whatever crackpottery JohnM is on about. If there's anyone who can make a success of London on a relative shoestring then Hetherington can.

Indeed it does - https://www.therhinos.co.uk/article/21880/record-breaker-hall-confirms-he-will-go-again-in-2026 Hopefully he won't get injured before calling it quits. If so he should overtake Newlove and Neil Fox which would put him 17th on the all time list. Ike Southward and Barney Hudson are within reach if the increased try scoring rate he's seen since returning to Leeds is maintained which would push him up to 15th.

Anything but take responsibility for the consequences of things they voted for huh.