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Salford financial issues(again…)
Leyther_Matt replied to LeytherRob's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
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I was streaming the Hibs game on Saturday on Premier Sports (remember them?) and it was actually running ahead of Flash Scores which is almost unheard of as they use the same feed as the bookies which obviously has to be almost instant
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Indeed, it is the holding capacity that is the issue in the North Stand (and funnily enough the same for the reduction in capacity in the North Stand at Wigan, both of which I’ve previously done calculations for). The (literal) couple of games where the full capacity has been utilised was enabled by using the north east and north west corners to increase the concourse footprint and required special permission. This has since never actually been applied for and I don’t think would be suitable now given the size of the crowds in the East and West Stands, along with the risk of migration to an already full North Stand. I think the only practical way would be to create an outdoor extension to the rear of the stand which I have seen at a few football grounds but would be complicated by the area immediately outside of the stand behind a public right of way. The messaging of a sold out North Stand is possibly more beneficial than being able to increase capacity mid season tbh. Fantastic discussion to be having, all the same.
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Yes, particularly in an away end where you’ve got a general unfamiliarity with the seats, people not being in the habit of buying their tickets to be sat together etc. I tend to see both sides of it in football - Bolton away games the reserved seating is rarely adhered to, even in a sell out, whereas I’m currently sat having a pint at Stansted en route to Dundee Utd v Hibs where I know reserved seating will be very much observed in the away end, even though it’s sold out. Yes it does. Although there’s an extra dozen or so seats (effectively 1 extra seat per box) that aren’t used, again to get over the 12,000 capacity for licensing, but the fire regs only permit 10 people in each single box. The main wins would be to have some outside the box thinking on being able to utilise the extra capacity in the North and consider removing the stage and the complications that brings. In reality I think it’s better to go with the lower capacity and push more tighter to a sell out (particularly given the messaging about members only in the North etc)
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It was initially under 12,000 but the licensing process saw a random half dozen in the East(!) to take capacity to 12,005. Seats were then put in the South around the camera gantry which took capacity to 12,168 and then three seats were lost with the new screen to take it to 12,165 which includes the unused 882 and the padded seats in Blocks E & F. In the immediate pre-Covid these were used for bookings in the banqueting suite (although invariably people preferred to watch from the window rather than walk downstairs then half the length of the pitch). Covid restrictions then meant it was restricted to non playing players and I think that’s largely still the case apart from a few invited guests and any media overflow from the desks in the middle. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast this morning though.
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I presumed he meant bin unreserved seating (apologies for putting words in your mouth Snowy owd lad) so that the 10% in the South isn’t lost (approximately 210 seats) Said match in question was the Cas v Widnes semi final and that was the only game that the North Stand had the full 3,768 capacity utilised rather than the 2,886 that is used for Leigh games. Also got to consider losing a good few hundred seats in the East because of the stage.
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Some of the Challenge Cup games will have had odds like that. Tbf it’s essentially the reason that the handicap exists. Would fully expect the Jillaroos to win by 60+ in all honesty. The levels of professionalism are light years apart, not to mention the player pool. The key is to narrow the gap over the coming years as much as possible.
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Erm
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Yes I missed Warrington off as they don’t really register to me (even though I watched them regularly in the mid 2000s), whereas the other 3 are the ones I’d always want us to beat.
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The games at Wigan and Hull can only go up to 24,000ish because of unreserved seating and the like. Similarly Leigh is nearer to just over 10,000 capacity while I think you can chop at least a couple of thousand off the Leeds crowd. That said, I would hope the record might still be under threat overall.
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Believe it or not, we get the same question at some League One away games watching Bolton Wouldn’t say it’s particularly common in RL other than in Cumbria (in my experience, at least) We used to ask the question from the original post every few years whenever Leigh were having a financial crisis and the answer was always Swinton. The ‘hangman’ stuff from last season left a bit of a sour taste though so I would probably tag on with a few mates at Halifax. That said, if I wasn’t already a Leigh fan then technically there’d be no reason not to consider Salford, Saints or Wigan, but I’ve not long since had my tea
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Maybe over egged a little bit, but I’d have certainly said just over 200. Made a bit of noise occasionally too (albeit admittedly I do sit towards that end) There’s a message on the ticket website “SCHOOL OFFERS CAN ONLY BE REDEEMED IN THE SOUTH STAND”, so presumably something in hand on that front @LeytherRob Apologies hadn’t seen you’d already mentioned about the schools offer
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Don’t start this nonsense again.
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Leigh will receive an allocation of tickets nearer to the time and will go through various levels of priority to season ticket holders and members before eventually going on general sale. Keep an eye on leightickets.co.uk
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8,440 at Leigh v Huddersfield (250ish away) Quite frankly unthinkable for most of my lifetime, it has to be said Big ask to come up with something against Catalans on Friday, but hopefully still break 7,500+
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Hull KR wouldn’t have played a single home game in the 90s or early 2000s if games were called off because of the wind. Gusts of 40mph aren’t particularly noteworthy and it is forecast to calm down before half time. Rare for more to be particularly confident, but with a good rest after the Wigan game I’m going Leigh by 14.
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For all the nostalgic talk of the Zoo, the differences in gates between Wilderspool and the HJ (LL?) is night and day.
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11,100 at Wire
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Tbf a few years ago the combined HKR/HFC crowd would be nowhere near Hull City*, so that’s huge progress in reality. *Discounting their ‘protest’ years
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Long gone. Was amended when London got promoted whilst playing at Ealing.
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Not bad tbf given I’m sure there will have been plenty who decided not to bother once they’d heard about the team selections.
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Wasn’t Sheffield v Wigan only 100 or so extra than that? (Not making any point as such, just feels a bit odd given you’d expect Wigan to have taken a lot more fans than Fax)