gingerjon

Some day all videos will be like this

They've produced a manifesto that basically says, "No niggers, no homos." Coincidentally, Beitar Jerusalem are having the same debate about whether Muslims are welcome in their 'Jewish' team. They have decided that they are. Soccer is rotten from top to bottom you see.

Much as I'd like to believe that all Leeds United fans are thus implicated as being criminal #### (that is what you're implying presumably?) I'm afraid I know too many of them who don't fit your rancid generalising picture. They also seem to be the first soccer team for a lot of rugby league fans. Want to unite Cas and Fev fans? Get them talking about Leeds United.

That's the thing that a Cup final can have as well I guess. Especially when it's so completely unexpected. Good to hear about the racial mix as well.

<weary>Rotten from top to bottom</weary> There's an awful lot wrong with soccer but it is the world's community game. Now that the US has fallen it is everywhere.

Go back and take it again!

Is that in the b/w competition? I'll vote for it!

It means you shoot gangsters.

And because of the above YouTube recommends this: I love YouTube.

About the greatest 2 minutes in the history of recorded music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnN1PUxml18

The former was especially common in the early years of online gambling when in-play markets came into being.

Some things are better left unsaid.

I did home-made fish cakes for the first time last night. Absolute doddle. I thought this was meant to be difficult.

There isn't a single professional sport that hasn't been 'influenced' by gamblers and/or gambling.

I think we can all think of situations where what appears to be a perfectly fine set-up can be made infinitely better by a reduction of two in the playing staff. Good observation.

Have I put this one on here before?

Smart kids.

Places carry on as normal when they get what's normal for them. Odd that.

I'm sure they will. And nobody will complain about why it's not on the season ticket or that the kick off time means they'll miss Bullseye.

Yup, a final blast from this snap blowing across the Chilterns later.

Certainly in the early days rugby union wanted to kill rugby league. After that, I think it was just pigheadedness and obstinacy. Soccerball also had a problem with potential pro/am schisms up until the 1920s. The FA Cup was originally a challenge tournament for the amateur classes; the Amateur Football Alliance wanted to usurp the FA as the true custodian of the game.

Yes, they were. But rugby league needed paying spectators to survive and grow, and soccer did not sit back and idly wait to see which side the working class public was going to support. (Obviously they acted in their own interests and didn't ban anyone but to pretend that only rugby union has been harmful, or to downplay what losing the fight with soccer meant (and continues to mean) is to ignore a major factor in rugby league's development.)

That is true. But in terms of the spread of a professional working class sport which do you think might have had the greater impact? A few clubbable chaps not wanting to professionalise themselves - or another professional working class sport going all out to win exactly the same market of spectators.

They didn't have to. Soccer actively sought to convert rugby clubs and prevent association clubs from playing rugby.

No, soccer did more than just develop its own game. It went out of its way to restrict the growth of a new code of professional football, prevented the growth of the game outside the heartlands and actively sought the same spectators. It's misguided to believe soccer to be blameless and lay all of our ills on the door of rugby union. Of course, rugby league's biggest enemy was, and is, itself.