Dave T

Good solid win Wire. No problems just went in and did a job.

Happy to disagree on this. He has been a superb player for Wire, the real shame is that he has had some tough injuries, often at key times, and for key stages he has been playing injured. I've no issues with not playing Williams based on injuries or lack of game time (or that you simply believe somebody else is better) - but it's just not true to suggest he has been very poor. There is a reason he gets picked - he's very good.

Thats not the point I disagreed with you on. He hasn't been poor for 3 years at all.

I mean that just isnt true. Had plenty of injuries, but when he's played he's been very good for Wire.

Im saying its not a fault

I know I'm an outlier, but I struggle with Voss and his nonsense abou5 pubs and takeaways when commentating on international matches.

I disagree. What do you want from them? This is where the majority of excitement players and pundits are from.

If we don't get a decent crowd, it will be a failure.

The main reference point we have here is 1995 Wigan v Leeds at this ground, 5.7k in thr Charity Shield. Far from a like-for-like comparison, but I think it suggests we will need to work hard here.

Maybe, hope you're right. But these clubs dont even mobilise these kind of followings for Cup Semis. I suppose we'll see how much of a draw Dublin really is, versus the negative of the cost.

I think with a fair wind we may see 5k Wigan, 3/4k Wire and if we got a couple of thousand locals then we may break 10k. Im hoping to be pleasantly surprised with a 20k crowd, but I just dont follow any logic that we will.

I think you are being overly optimistic here. Im not sure why the expectation is that we will go and sell 20k tickets (or 40k) in Dublin. Have you blanked out previous on the road attempts? I do hope this is closer to Barcelona games than Swansea 1997/8

To be fair, I think the suggestion (and one I broadly agree with) is that better leadership wouldn't schedule things like this. And the hypothesis is that NRL investment would lead to better leadership.

I wonder how much value having a 2nd match in Dublin is going to add. Why arent we putting all focus and resources i to selling one event? I read that Wire and Wigan are hoping for 20k. Id be stunned with that, and whilst hopeful of a success, if I was a betting man Id be expecting crowds of say 7k and 5.5k.

Vegas in Feb, Dublin in April, Cup semis May, Cup Final June, Magic in July, Grand Final October makes sense. It does feel like forcing Magic at Everton despite this years date not being available is the issue.

Not really. People often wonder of the intent and what it will cost SL.

So you're saying it was always better? Maybe thats why I didnt have an issue before?

Great win FC.

Once again though, cameras werent the issue. I'm genuinely loathe to criticise refs, but at the moment, the officiating in SL just isnt good enough. Im not sure whether that is die to the leader or what, but its becoming a real challenge. I've always taken the approach of trying to ignore it, but they are making that difficult.

This process is awful.

That is awful on field refereeing and touchjudging

Surprised they didnt check that with the VR.

Nah.

We're just a weird sport arent we. A weird event just a week prior to Magic. Announced in a weird fragmented way. We're just not very good at basics.

Why didnt they show that side angle earlier?