StevieM13

Parksider will be along in a moment to show you the error of your ways

Morley, Westwood and Atkins with possibly Higham. No other will make the final squad.

Apparently Cas fans self policed during the chanting. The Cas club put out tannoy announcements immediately and used cameras to identify the perpetrators. Expect a massive fine for Wigan then.

It's been on every 5Live sports bulletin all afternoon, and the same on Radio2.

Peacock is captain. He has to rally his troops. Leuluai was wrong to run so far to abuse McGuire, and so was Clarke with his pathetic comments. Wigan will be favourites, and with all that is at stake it should be a hell of a game.

Keith Macklin and David Watkins. Went to the old Fartown few times.

The Briers one was worse than the Buderus effort because Briers was not effecting a correct tackling technique. He had hands between legs and lifted.

I was referring to Gilmour when he failed to make any attempt to go for the ball and for making contact with a player off the ground as King leapt for the Briers cross kick and was then adjudged by the VR to have knocked on. It should have been a penalty to Warrington.

Could be some Stonewalling going on here........unless of course someone at the ground makes a complaint. I wonder if it was in the match commissioners report.

I would guess that the Saints team of that era would have supporters cramming up the buses to follow them wherever they played. Cas is round the corner. Salford with Watkins, Fielding were a bit of a glamour club back then. Are attendances from nearly 40 years ago really relevant to this era?

Those clubs that are able to spend the maximum cap already attract the best players, so how does that differ from a free market? Where does wage inflation enter the equation? Super League created wage inflation of extreme proportions when the first News money came into the game. Are you saying that the men behind the top clubs are so incapable of realising that e.g crowds, hospitality and merchandise are so important that they would fail to continue to tap these vital revenue streams and simply spend their own money? The production lines at Saints, Leeds, Wigan etc are there because of the astute management of the clubs and the existence of strong amateur leagues in those areas, plus an ability to attract kids from elsewhere. How is the competition more even? What indicators are you using to assert this assumption? The Ceteris Paribus rule does not apply simply because all other things are not and never will be equal. You say if you have money you are in, but it doesn't actually work like that. The ability of a club to compete should not be determined by preventing investment, it should be determined by an ability to meet it's obligations. If you have got money you are in, as you say.Scrap the cap, it's there in name only anyway.

No matter how many times I have rearranged those three words it still makes a nonsensical reply from you. I thought it was a very interesting tactic that does not appear to have been picked up on. In the wakefield vs Hull FC game a couple of months ago, Kirk Yeaman was called offside at the play the ball when he was getting back into the line from the previous play. He was in roughly the same position as Tuson relative to the play the ball but not deliberately so. He scored but the try was chalked off. I would be interested to know, from any match officials on here, why Tuson was not penalised for deliberate offside and trying to distract defenders by mving towards them when the ball was played.

I think the OP has a very fair point. Chanting does not endanger players, it shows a lack of understanding of their sensibilities, the poor luvs. There did appear to be just one incident of a lighter making it's way on to the playing surface, though the Sky cameramen and broadcast editor may have picked up more and declined to the pictures. I didn't see hordes of KR fans down at the front of the stand making efforts to trespass on to the playing surface and assault the Wigan players either, then again the cameras were not down at that end too much. Did the match officials see more than we were shown and make the decision not to insist the Wigan players stood behind the posts, or were the KR supporters so uncontrolled by the club stewards that player safety could be compromised. Either way, it looked terrible and that one incident could actually do the image and reputation of the game massive harm. Huge fine for Wigan failing to have sufficiently well trained stewards to prevent player safety possibly being compromised, and a huge fine for Rovers for not asking their fans to behave properly at all times.

Out of interest, what is the population of Featherstone and when did a crowd at PO Road exceed that? I don't think Featherstone will ever be invited to join SL.

There's been instances of players not in possession running into or through the defensive line. Tries have been chalked off and penalties given against the side in possession. Noticed in the Friday game that Chris Tuson of Wigan deliberately stood in an offside position facing the defensive line just a yard or two to the right of a Wigan play the ball. Wigan were within a couple of yeards of the Rovers line, not far in from the left hand touchline at the away end. Hull KR had players around the ruck ready to try and prevent the acting half back going on his own. Tuson was obviously standing in that position to attempt to affect the defensive line, and as the ball has played he moved towards the defenders. I don't know if anyone else picked up on it, the referee certainly didn't even though he had an unobstructed view from 10 feet away, but that play the ball led to a Wigan try and surely it should have been chalked off for delibearte offside/interference?

The Grand Final has, with the exception of one year, been won by a top two finishing side. Should it be three strikes and out, or two? What have the last three SL Grand Final crowds been?

Wel,l Wigan and Huddersfield are in a position to do something about it.

Saints fans want to go back and win. It's the end of an era for the current Saints side on and off the pitch. Leeds want to go back and keep their amazing run going. What's the problem?

I listened to the same programmes, and it was an interview with a former Widnes official which really made me think the whole thing was going to be covered up. He made it clear who at the RFL handled the visa checks and that person's diligence in telling Widnes that because visa rules had changed they could not keep certain overseas players at the club. The same erson handled the Celtic Crusaders playing visas. Craig Spence did say the RFL would wait to see what the UKBA said, but he did not say the RFL would hold an investigation. It never had intention of doing so and never will. Complete whitewash.

How quick is he? Didn't seem to be flat out, or he was making it look easy when he went the length. He had a start on Riley but left him well behind and Atkins couldn't close him down.

Strange you should pick out James Child. Just how utterly shocking were his decision not to question the Hicks try from the Briers kick and thrown forward Anderson pass to Hicks for his second. Waste of space. How Bentham and the video ref missed Gilmour on King is amazing. Mason also hit Mathers high with a left and right in the same tackle that went unseen.

How about 1 v 8 2 v 7 3 v 6 4 v 5 Losers go out then highest ranked winner gets home game against lowest ranked winner. e.g 1 vs 2 3 v 4 Winners then go to GF. Still have to win 3 games to lift title, shortens play offs by 1 week which gives more time between season end and start of whatever international calendar there is. Simple.