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Ontario Rugby League have a plan to run a four team league this summer with a mid term goal of having Six clubs by 2020.

TBF John, while I'll never vote Corbyn and have no agenda that way, Johnson is the wrong man for the Foreign Office job and has done nothing but bring the role in to disrepute.

Let me explain in just one example of 59 words, why the international community is without meaningful exception as far as I can see, agrees with the UK position? If the govt. of France, with its institutional antipathy to the UK and with its predeliction for er....contrariness and its historic relationship with Russia can see its way to expelling four Russian "diplomats", then you can be pretty sure they are both convinced of Russian complicity and concerned for the safety of Russian expats now resident in France. Then there is this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/04/chemical-weapons-watchdog-meets-russian-spy-poisoning-salisbury-sergei-skripal How anyone can come to any other conclusion, or doubt that the British Govt position is wrong, or even think that any decisions taken by other governments be soley based on a few words from Boris ...well..."I CANT' SPAKE!!"

"The missive, sent to stakeholders, including the New Zealand Rugby League, questions whether financial considerations have been placed above player welfare, particularly due to the short turnaround times and the lack of consultation." ooh a scathing letter! The hypocritical ####ers Cameron Smith a chief member and spokesperson of the RLPA has been backing up 24-48 hours after State of Origin matches for over a decade! "The NRL and the RLPA are powerless to stop the international, as it does not fall under the governing body's jurisdiction." "While concerns have been raised, the game appears set to go ahead." Thank god the penny has finally dropped!

As a Haven fan good to see you back. I never saw you post anything offensive and was puzzled as to why you had been banned. If they are going to ban people for having an alternative or less popular view then we are getting to a bad state of affairs.

Give him one of your kidneys, it'd be cheaper.

Either JF going full time and/or the club is something to be considered and I'm sure those running the club wouldn't go ahead without thinking it through. The comparison with Sheffield is difficult though - they've been a nomadic team for quite some time now, even at Don Valley they didn't seem rooted in the community, they've never looked like having the potential to draw big support and they can't rely on supporters from other clubs to increase attendances. With York, I think there is potential to bring in more who live in the area but who currently head to Leeds or Cas, plus we can rely on the support of Hull KR too. Likewise, seen a few Hull FC tops at BC. Not to mention the racecourse crowds is something to tap into. Whereas I can't imagine many Super League fans currently live in Sheffield who could be swayed to watch the Eagles, also both Sheffield football teams are big clubs and it would be near impossible to cut into that market. I've gone into more detail in the general forum (the York SL potential thread), but IMO the short term aim should be promotion in the near future, getting into the new stadium, and bringing crowds of 2,000+ in for every match whether it's Barrow or Bradford, Coventry or Catalans. Then things could be evaluated.

I do think we are a bit impatient at times. Bob8 has just linked to an article that was highlighted here just a couple of weeks back. These things take time, it'd be nice to get a weekly update, but tbh, I suspect it is quite boring detail that is being discussed at the moment.

I would agree - whether or not we have all the intelligence evidence in the world supporting that is was Russia behind the poisonings the Foreign Secretary is meant to be a diplomatic role not a propaganda role, the position needs someone who thinks before they open their mouth and I don't think there are many people in the country who could honestly say they think BoJo pauses to think before he spouts. he has a likable buffoon personality which plays to the masses and fits in with a role which requires you to empathise with people and appear to be "their friend" that is more suitable for education or health NOT the foreign office which is about looking serene whilst lots goes on behind the scenes - the only reason he has the job is May be very careful to keep her friends close and her enemies closer. It is the only job that tied his hands re what he could say regarding Brexit so he couldn't use the last year as a election platform for his obvious desire to become Tory leader

I've always felt he'd be better off making TWP a big success before moving on. It's difficult enough just making one transatlantic club a success. But who am i to tell him what to do. He seems like a smart guy.

Roughyed34 is logically correct in everything he says. It's a shame there aren't more people like him at the top table. Our game is on its last legs and will die unless something happens and quickly. I feel our game can't wait for the chosen few to decide how our game will look in the future because if we do there won't be a future. All clubs not in sooperdooper league need to have a voice and meet to decide how they want our game to be run. Ideas of how this could be done needs exploring. Do you remember the dual header finals at Old Trafford? What a fantastic day out. Just thinking was it the greed of sooperdooper league that stopped the other final being played because they wanted all of the revenue? Things don't change.

You want me to bottle the team bus?!?

I've always been in favour of more French clubs in SL. Derbies and rivalries are the lifeblood of sport. Widnes have always been very generous and I've no doubt we would be again if Toulouse drew us in the cup.

There are too many Bob8 loving relationships going on at the moment... first JohnM, not RidingPie... it's sickening!

I've no idea what the best structure is. What I do know is that whatever opinion I eventually come up with will be so obviously right that the RFL will be incompetent clowns for not having implemented it yet.

I really am trying to keep clear of this stuff and nonsense, honestly, I really am. However, Mark S's post has crossed my very high response threshold. You really do have to wonder who's side the Corbynistas are on. Good grief man, get a grip.

Be a pity if we lost this guy.Not many like him in this game of ours.

Just a point of order. The 2nd great schism, it could be argued, occurred in 1895 with the formation of what we now call 'rugby league'. The first great schism occurred around 1863 when those in favour of 'handling and running'with the ball separated from those who didn't. However I do know what you mean. With regards to the current topic I feel a split could occur because a number of clubs feel they are being held back from their earnings potential by the restrictions, and hence meagre pickings and scraps, placed on them by the sky contract. If there is a split I feel the SL Clubs must leave the RFL and relinquish any hold on the challenge cup and allow that part of history to be retained by the so called lower clubs.

The British government is right. That doesn't make BoJo's donkeyish bluster right.

Toulouse have 80 years of footy history. They play an open brand of football and I believe their promotion would be massive for the game.

Also all a distinct lack of news on the Bristol team. Guess we are nearly a year away but any team entering next year will need to start signing players in just over 6 months time

No idea but with all the rumours about expansion, SL 1 & 2, golden point wish they would clarify things either way to put the endless speculation to bed

I have an on site radio de walt, I told one of the lads if I put speech radio on it doesn't use the battery up as quick as the music stations due to all the instruments plugged in, oh don't worry theres some right dim wits on some of the jobs I go to.

stats Johnson-2 tackles. 3 tackle busts. one clean break. 12 carries=67m Eccleston-12 tackles. one tackle bust. 10 carries=87m Holmes-28 tackles. one miss. 5 carries=22m Reid-21 tackles. one miss. 4 carries=28m West-3 tackles.one tackle bust. 13 carries=98m Crook-17 tackles. 2 misses. one tackle bust. one try assist. 3 carries=12m Hewitt-8 tackles. one miss. 2 carries=0m Joy-33 tackles. one miss. 12 carries=83m Hughes-32 tackles. 2 carries=21m Neal-33 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. 8 carries=45m Bridge-29 tackles. one miss. 17 carries=114m Langtree-42 tackles. 2 misses. 3 offloads.3 tackle busts. one clean break. one try assist. 12 carries=85m Spencer-28 tackles. 2 misses. 2 offloads. 10 carries=74m subs Briscoe-16 tackles. one miss. one clean break. 9 carries=73m Wilkinson-12 tackles. 5 carries=23m Nelmes-9 tackles. one miss. 9 carries=52m Bent-38 tackles.one tackle bust. 9 carries=56m

In a perfect world: 14 team SL 14 team Championship all fully professional clubs. 26 rounds, 2 up 2 down, top 6 play off in SL. 1 up automatically, next 4 play off in Championship. 2 week mid season international window.