Dunbar

I'm with you. A couple of mistakes and a few missed opportunities from both sides. But that's the game and nowhere near the 'determined to lose' level.

Warrington are getting good enough to really dislike them again.

He is. Warrington just have some really good athletes - and young too. Ashton, Thewlis, Nicholson and more. They are so good.

Yes. If you are in danger of taking an advantage then surrender (not a great look but it works I guess). But I don't think Hall took any advantage, no defenders were impeded.

I think you are. But it is one of those that is always given these days. We have some things we are uber pedantic about and some things we let go. That is in the former.

Try. Clearly.

Terry not knowing that it was a penalty try in commentary.

I think that is a fair decision. The tackle was high and the tackle was part of the reason why he (just) touched the line.

I enjoy watching Rugby League enough to put up with that drum. But it is close.

I understand your point. But I absolutely lay some blame on the players and coaches as well... because they will point fingers at the opposition for something they do themselves. I think this problem is solved as much by the players and coaches, to say enough is enough, as much as it is the officials to get the calls right.

My post after the one you quoted stated that I thought the video ref should have let play continue. But I have to say, you thinking the players don't bear any blame in try to win that penalty goes against much of what you have said on this subject.

The Fox commentary team I was listening to live (not the one in the clip) mentioned that they thought the VR was reluctant to give it and sounded embarrassed to give it... the implication being that he had no option but to penalise as there was head contact. But surely he would have been within his rights to say it was incidental head contact with no force so no penalty.

This one is entirely on the Manly players, they appealed that knock on hoping to get that head contact penalised. They should be ashamed of themselves.

How about this for a 'game's gone' moment. https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/nrl/commentators-shocked-by-stitch-up-bunker-call/clvz5wqwf00030ho32c1zaco4

Two teams I thoroughly enjoy watching, looking forward to this one.