Lowdesert

not sure how these are collated but it gives an idea. https://www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com/2023/06/19/the-most-prolific-referees-and-team-discipline-in-2023/

Tell that to all the players. I know what the answer would be!

Doing it in the right place at the right time they should absolutely be allowed. Ranting on TV or in social media absolutely not. Big fines for them both donated to RL Cares.

Its more about managing ego’s. I think SB will inspire these players to up their game now. TBH a good pro like Vaughan must wonder wtf he has got himself into.

Think he’s out injured. He played v Hull it but not v Cas. Videos are out there somewhere

I think a few non French have come from elite teams into the British league over the years and seem to remember a Fijian? coming across this year as well. there is a French lad from Albi with Hull fc reserves

It would be interesting to see how many French are playing for uk clubs, to balance whether French pro clubs are developing players. After that, you have elite and also Pole espoirs developing them. Secondly, what is the level of homegrown players, per club, in our 3 pro leagues? Or, how many first teams don’t have local lads or lasses playing in them? I see Haven had 3 French playing for them last year. Le Cam, Rouge and Jouffret in 2021.

Certainly won’t encourage those newcomers!

It doesn’t show the players he brought in, in a good light either. “I think last year getting rid of so many players, I don’t think we brought the right ones in.“

Reported that he’s turned Wire down and now a toss up whether it’s Canterbury or Roosters. Maybe Wire couldn’t guarantee players would conform to his neck rubbing requirements?

Not in the post I looked at about 5 quotes ago. I haven’t looked at those previous so I can’t really apologise for that. There are finer details to it but nowhere in the rfl coaching manual did it say ‘head directly onto the limb’ or similar bullet style tackle terminology. Larder or any other RFL coach taught that. Phil did teach how to fiddle the rules at small sided games though!

You are correct other than the head goes to the side, never head on. That applies to side, rear, front passive and blockbuster tackles. No doubt you got marked down

They aren’t.

If I was one of those seen to be overacting then say but I called it how I saw it. Also said that if I had been alongside him on the pitch I’d have patted Asiata on the back. Both tackles didn’t seem right to me but if that’s the way the judiciary saw it then fair enough but it’s not a form of tackling you would teach or coach as already said, no law to breach. That aside, for effort and never giving in Leigh 100% deserved to be going to Wembley.

Do the Panel refer to International laws for CC and SL games?

Difficult to not pat him on the back for both tackles mate but 2 instances of a similar action with (and we don’t know yet) season ending injuries?

Just genuinely playing devils advocate here - what would you have said if this had been a Leigh player on the receiving end?

I don’t believe Reffing is any harder. They are just calling it as they think and the disciplinary do the rest or they go to the video ref. Weve seen numerous charges made by the disciplinary mentioning wrapping the arms around the ball carrier. (Not sure the exact words used). Imo this approach will be considered by the panel. Whatever the outcome I doubt there will be ground breaking punishment by any stretch and it could be just as you say, no laws broken. I think he’ll get punished though.

To be fair, those tackles have been Matautias stock in trade for some time, it’s just that yesterday he chose another option and it backfired on him.

Both teams can be proud of their efforts imo. As good a game as I’ve seen for a long time.

Indeed, because that’s essential, but in the context I’ve given (not attempting to engage his arms) it looks to me the same as a shoulder charge. I thought he would have a case to answer when watching it live. We will see. For the Paasi tackle he did what I would want a team mate to do - put his body on the line. I wouldn’t criticise him for the effort one bit or the effect but with slow motion analysis the disciplinary have see he has a case to answer.

IMO he’ll get done for both. For the 1st, on Walmsley, Asiata drops his arms to lead with the shoulder. No intention to ‘wrap’ or use his arms - straightforward shoulder charge on the leg. For the second, I though he was just getting his body in the way and had his head in the wrong place but after watching it again, he dives in and has his head facing down to the ground before contact. From the video, that gives strong doubt Asiata is even looking at the target. It’s extremely careless and he has no control. He could glean some support from the 2nd saying that he just got his head in the wrong place and his positioning was wrong but the ‘head/eyes’ down action will, again imo, condemn him.

Plus the diversity of being in partnership with an explosive company….or have I read that wrong?

Not sure if this has been mentioned but TNT sport are also interested https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-12294661/TNT-Sport-make-shock-bid-rugby-Super-League-TV-rights.html

Those that haven’t were in the minority. I have a vivid recollection of Masons first game as he walked down to the warm up drill area in front of Puig Aubert, in a jersey one size too small, wearing a girdle and then tripping over in the first passing drill in the coned off area. Complete embarrassment to the profession.