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[Stan Doffarf]

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[shrek]

My pointwas two-fold.

Firstly that English coaches rarely get another opportunity at top-level if it doesn't work out first time. McNamara actually got the England job when the Bulls were going okay and he hadn't been sacked, so not really relevant.

My other point was about fans writing them off. Fans are happy with Potter, yet if an English coach had taken over Saints and not delivered as much as him there would be uproar.

Spot on.

[Blind side johnny]

iv'e said for weeks and i'll say it again. Brian McDermott will be coaching Bradford Bulls next season. when i had a meet up with some ex Army mates in London recently and we took in a Quins game. the talk amongst Quins supporters in the bar was who will take over from Brian McDermott for next season.

Got any racing tips?

[Johnoco]

I'll wait and see what happens next season.

[hindle xiii]

I'll wait and see what happens next season.

Aye. Same here.

He may be sh!te, he may be good, only time will tell.

Plenty actually scoffed at Menzies joining the Bulls (and I recently bumped that thread) but look how he went.

Yes I'm not excited by this appointment, and the lack of concern from Saints fans says enough for me to be cynical, but I'll at least give him the chance, whilst not getting carried away.

[Errol Stock]

Yes I'm not excited by this appointment, and the lack of concern from Saints fans says enough for me to be cynical, but I'll at least give him the chance, whilst not getting carried away.

Agreed - but the immediate header in the T & A could be construed as a "Oh Deary Me"..

"Potter: I'm not here to revolutionise Bradford Bulls"

From where I am stood - thats exactly what I did not want to hear...

[Kenilworth Tiger]

Does Potter actually talk?

[Bulliac]

Aye. Same here.

He may be sh!te, he may be good, only time will tell.

Plenty actually scoffed at Menzies joining the Bulls (and I recently bumped that thread) but look how he went.

Yes I'm not excited by this appointment, and the lack of concern from Saints fans says enough for me to be cynical, but I'll at least give him the chance, whilst not getting carried away.

I don't know if I'm 'excited' or not to be honest, I'm certainly looking forward to the next game, but then, by Friday I always am. We've got a new coach for next season, he proved to be decent at Catalans, he's got a bit of stick at St Helens, if he has a bit of luck there is no reason why he shouldn't keep the majority happy at the Bulls. At the end of the day he'll leave and some will say he's been great, some won't be too sure, and some will say good riddance, c'est la vie.

He's been pretty circumspect so far, there again, he's still employed by Saints, so he's hardly got round to a detailed list of things he would like to change at Odsal. No doubt he will stick with what he feels is good and bin what he doesn't like. He was, I assume, used to a constrained budget at Catalans, so that shouldn't be a big problem for him.

In the meantime LSH steps into the breech. If we can get a few troops back on parade then we can make the eight, if not it will be more difficult, but I'm ever hopeful.

Still running with the Bulls!!

[Mumby Magic]

I'm happy with the signing. Firstly we could have had worst. He offers a fresh approach, has a knowledge of the French game I hope he taps into and had a great career in the NRL. The season isn't over yet and could hit the Bulls bench with two trophies in tow. Fingers crossed he doesn't keep the deadwood.

[bewareshadows]

My pointwas two-fold.

Firstly that English coaches rarely get another opportunity at top-level if it doesn't work out first time. McNamara actually got the England job when the Bulls were going okay and he hadn't been sacked, so not really relevant.

My other point was about fans writing them off. Fans are happy with Potter, yet if an English coach had taken over Saints and not delivered as much as him there would be uproar.

Last English coach at Saints?

Hanley.

1st Season, won the grand final.
2nd Season sacked after 2 games.
Next seen, dancing on ice.

[bewareshadows]

As for Potter, I'm uncertain. Compared to Anderson he looks like a backwards step when you just look at won and lost.

However when you take into account resources and transistion, it does not look so bad.

After 6 or 7 games this year I would have been saying woeful as he took alot away from Saints, however our attacking flair seams to be back and the kids have done well.

I see him as a kind of interim coach that will keep a club on an even keel and rebuild it, but does not have the killer instinct nessasary to win games. Not a motivational speaker, more a planner and designer. Saints had a similar coach, before super league and the likes of cunningham, wellens etc came through under him then McCrea came in and won some trophies with the team that had been built plus 1 or 2 big signings.

Well we have josh perry for next year and we are looking at another, so hopefully history will repeat itself.

[Bulliac]

I'm happy with the signing. Firstly we could have had worst. He offers a fresh approach, has a knowledge of the French game I hope he taps into and had a great career in the NRL. The season isn't over yet and could hit the Bulls bench with two trophies in tow. Fingers crossed he doesn't keep the deadwood.

I'd guess that any changes will be subject to our budget limits, as I can't see Hood 'splashing out' money we haven't got. Biggest hope might be that the crowds rise, that would push the spending power northwards, but to be honest, I can't foresee any very large increase.

I know a few people specifically said they wouldn't come back until Macca left, but I'd guess the vast majority of the old glory days fans have other reasons for no longer attending matches; for most it's likely to be simply that we're not winning enough games. Let's hope things pick up.

[hindle xiii]

I'd guess that any changes will be subject to our budget limits, as I can't see Hood 'splashing out' money we haven't got. Biggest hope might be that the crowds rise, that would push the spending power northwards, but to be honest, I can't foresee any very large increase.

I know a few people specifically said they wouldn't come back until Macca left, but I'd guess the vast majority of the old glory days fans have other reasons for no longer attending matches; for most it's likely to be simply that we're not winning enough games. Let's hope things pick up.

Perhaps a fresh approach and new techniques could turn around the sub-standard players?

Look at the successes of Warrington and Wigan with the only real change being a new coach.

[1976PMJwires]

Perhaps a fresh approach and new techniques could turn around the sub-standard players?

Look at the successes of Warrington and Wigan with the only real change being a new coach.

Andrew, Potter is the right choice for me, you will be ok, just hope you sort out the marketing.
Bulls to become a force again sometime very soon.

[hindle xiii]

Andrew, Potter is the right choice for me, you will be ok, just hope you sort out the marketing.
Bulls to become a force again sometime very soon.

I'll have to wait and see. Some are clamouring for him to be the messiah because those fans were desperate. I'm supportive, but patient and tentative.

[1976PMJwires]

I'll have to wait and see. Some are clamouring for him to be the messiah because those fans were desperate. I'm supportive, but patient and tentative.

Indeed, time will tell.

[Mumby Magic]

I'd guess that any changes will be subject to our budget limits, as I can't see Hood 'splashing out' money we haven't got. Biggest hope might be that the crowds rise, that would push the spending power northwards, but to be honest, I can't foresee any very large increase.

I know a few people specifically said they wouldn't come back until Macca left, but I'd guess the vast majority of the old glory days fans have other reasons for no longer attending matches; for most it's likely to be simply that we're not winning enough games. Let's hope things pick up.

I'd rather play a kid than the deadwood.

[Bulliac]

Perhaps a fresh approach and new techniques could turn around the sub-standard players?

Look at the successes of Warrington and Wigan with the only real change being a new coach.

Oh absolutely. Someone with a bit better luck on the injury front would be a big advantage over the last couple of years too. At the end of the day squad players are supposed to be just that, players you go to when the better ones are unavailable, but too many of ours have been picked virtually every week. I mean, fair enough, we could play the kids, but you can't put six and seven in the side every week, it's just no fair on the lads themselves. In any case you really want to be introducing youngsters into a stable side that has a good ethos, and with good pros from whom they can learn, and that's hardly been the case for much this season.

Edited by Bulliac, 17 July 2010 - 03:43 PM.

[hindle xiii]

Oh absolutely. Someone with a bit better luck on the injury front would be a big advantage over the last couple of years too. At the end of the day squad players are supposed to be just that, players you go to when the better ones are unavailable, but too many of ours have been picked virtually every week. I mean, fair enough, we could play the kids, but you can't put six and seven in the side every week, it's just no fair on the lads themselves. In any case you really want to be introducing youngsters into a stable side that has a good ethos, and with good pros from whom they can learn, and that's hardly been the case for much this season.

Sadly everything you've written has been obliterated as Potter is at St Helens, they've had rotten injury luck and brought in young players AND done reasonably well, not by their high standards but by the norm! They've made the proverbial lemonade. Rassun frassun!

[Saint Toppy]

If the bulls fans see Potter as their saviour then they're going to be very disappointed. He has experience and a fair amount of tactical knowledge but his personality (or rather lack of) means he isn't able to bond with the players and impart all that knowledge onto them. He simply isn't able to motivate and get the best out of players the way other top class coaches can.

This type of personality also doesn't go down too well with ther fans and Potter's reluctance to speak to them makes him seem passionless & disinterested.

He's by no means the worst coach Saints have ever had but he's a long way from being the best.