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#41 Northern Sol

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:09 PM

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I was also brought up by Bradford schooling and we lived in a back to back, didn't qualify for a council house. My schooling was done in the forces, and my life is now in uni's, but I love my League always have, and hate to be put down by anyone.
Stevo gets one thing right and that is we have the greatest game, and we sadly let ourselves down by not promotong our game. Soccer has done a great job of marketing theirs which actually can very often be very poor entertainment.
Sadly, we apper to be stuck in our northern roots, and we really should be ensuring that we have solid sides in London and Wales.


We have sides in London or Wales, whether they are solid or not is down to their management not "we".

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:07 AM

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We have sides in London or Wales, whether they are solid or not is down to their management not "we".

Mmm yeah, in a way, I suppose. Though it's hard to deny that we have a responsibility to promote the game as best we can, and also when, and wherever, it takes root, the onus is on us to help sustain it and provide whatever help we can to ensure it thrives. It's clearly not totally open ended, after all the RFL isn't the FA, and doesn't have pots of cash sitting in accounts, but if we want the professional game to become truly national, which I believe most of us do, then we have to nurture it. We can't just sit on our collective hands and say 'nuffink to do wiv me guv'.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:54 AM

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I was also brought up by Bradford schooling and we lived in a back to back, didn't qualify for a council house. My schooling was done in the forces, and my life is now in uni's, but I love my League always have, and hate to be put down by anyone.
Stevo gets one thing right and that is we have the greatest game, and we sadly let ourselves down by not promotong our game. Soccer has done a great job of marketing theirs which actually can very often be very poor entertainment.Sadly, we apper to be stuck in our northern roots, and we really should be ensuring that we have solid sides in London and Wales.

Soccer as far as I can see doesn't do any marketing, Sky do a lot for them just as the BBC does a lot for union.

We suffer from a lack of broadcasting partner who is willling to push the game. Sky get very good viewing figures for a comparitively small outlay, they propbably feel that they don't need to market the game as they are happy with their return. With football they have to market it like hell to try and ensure they geet a return on their massive investment. With union despite Sky's best efforts they have had a poor return on their investment, again comparitively. The BBC is another kettle of fish, they have no need to pay what they do for union and no reason to market it as much as they do, but we all know what's going on there don't we.

As for the original topic, I have met all sorts of peole from all sorts of backgrounds who play and watch the sport.

The clubs happen to be in the main are in areas where there is more 'working class' people to attract.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 16 2010, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soccer as far as I can see doesn't do any marketing, Sky do a lot for them just as the BBC does a lot for union.

We suffer from a lack of broadcasting partner who is willling to push the game. Sky get very good viewing figures for a comparitively small outlay, they propbably feel that they don't need to market the game as they are happy with their return. With football they have to market it like hell to try and ensure they geet a return on their massive investment. With union despite Sky's best efforts they have had a poor return on their investment, again comparitively. The BBC is another kettle of fish, they have no need to pay what they do for union and no reason to market it as much as they do, but we all know what's going on there don't we.

As for the original topic, I have met all sorts of peole from all sorts of backgrounds who play and watch the sport.

The clubs happen to be in the main are in areas where there is more 'working class' people to attract.


Padge - You might also argue that if Sky promoted RL much better than the return could be much higher.

Twice as much sky money should mean twice as many SL teams and could allow pro teams in other areas in the UK. What I would like to see is more RL clubs is the biggest towns with no current soccer RU or RL clubs

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:32 PM

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The clubs happen to be in the main are in areas where there is more 'working class' people to attract.

Thats one helluva of a coincidence.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:36 PM

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Padge - You might also argue that if Sky promoted RL much better than the return could be much higher.

Twice as much sky money should mean twice as many SL teams and could allow pro teams in other areas in the UK. What I would like to see is more RL clubs is the biggest towns with no current soccer RU or RL clubs

What would that list look like and how do you define no existing club of a different code? No top level or just no pro?

No top level i can think of:
Plymouth (if being rough means open to league then plymouth should be top of the list!)
Exeter
Bristol
Brighton
Bournemouth
Swindon
Ipswich
Norwich

Can't think of anymore but even those have pro teams of ru and soccer.

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#47 Northern Sol

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (Bulliac @ Jul 16 2010, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mmm yeah, in a way, I suppose. Though it's hard to deny that we have a responsibility to promote the game as best we can, and also when, and wherever, it takes root, the onus is on us to help sustain it and provide whatever help we can to ensure it thrives. It's clearly not totally open ended, after all the RFL isn't the FA, and doesn't have pots of cash sitting in accounts, but if we want the professional game to become truly national, which I believe most of us do, then we have to nurture it. We can't just sit on our collective hands and say 'nuffink to do wiv me guv'.


How many development officers are funded by the RFL in non-heartland areas?
How much money did these areas get from Sport England?

Let us not imagine that the RFL is doing nothing to expand the game.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:48 PM

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Last crusaders game i wen to, i couldn't even get any couscous. I mean for fooks sake.


Do they do polenta? Or polari ph34r.gif

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:41 PM

Can't remember which comedian it was who said that in the North to say that you "have had polenta" means that you have had enough.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:06 PM

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Can't remember which comedian it was who said that in the North to say that you "have had polenta" means that you have had enough.


Stuart Maconie?

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:31 PM

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Padge - You might also argue that if Sky promoted RL much better than the return could be much higher.

Twice as much sky money should mean twice as many SL teams and could allow pro teams in other areas in the UK. What I would like to see is more RL clubs is the biggest towns with no current soccer RU or RL clubs


I suspect that Sky are pretty good at market research (but can occassionaly miss the mark) and realise that if they promoted rugby as much as they promote union they would see little return on investment, the product is probably at a point where the investment gives a nice return and further investment may just eat into the return and not increase it. It seems with union they are beginning to realise that the have a similar situation, they audiance has peaked, they probably expected it to be higher and they have been running at a low return on investment, promotion failed. Why did it fail, probably because you can't polish a ######.

Adding Leigh, Hunslet, Bramley and Blackpool to an expanded SL won't put a lot more bums on Sky seats, Sky knows it, the RFL know, some enlightened supporters know it, then there is...


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