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#1 audois

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 06:40 PM

Two year contract for the 21 year old Sydney Roosters loose forward. Of course son of Tas Baitieri who was in charge at PSG. Jason was born in France. Only a couple of NRL appearances under his belt. His dad has been a big influence on the games development over the last decade or so in both Europe and Australia. Nice to have that link up but what happens on the pitch will be what counts. Dragons appear to be going back to the type of overseas lads they started with at the start.
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#2 Wendall

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE (audois @ Aug 31 2010, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two year contract for the 21 year old Sydney Roosters loose forward. Of course son of Tas Baitieri who was in charge at PSG. Jason was born in France. Only a couple of NRL appearances under his belt. His dad has been a big influence on the games development over the last decade or so in both Europe and Australia. Nice to have that link up but what happens on the pitch will be what counts. Dragons appear to be going back to the type of overseas lads they started with at the start.


Hmm not sure about this signing but at least he's French!

The big names from the NRL they have had recently like Ryles, Walker and Johnson have turned out to be duffers so maybe some lesser names will be keener to impress.



#3 ParisSurtout

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (audois @ Aug 31 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two year contract for the 21 year old Sydney Roosters loose forward. Of course son of Tas Baitieri who was in charge at PSG. Jason was born in France. Only a couple of NRL appearances under his belt. His dad has been a big influence on the games development over the last decade or so in both Europe and Australia. Nice to have that link up but what happens on the pitch will be what counts. Dragons appear to be going back to the type of overseas lads they started with at the start.



You may have missed it, but Jason Baiteiri's signing was first reported on the "French captain Olivier Elima has gone to Bradford" thread here:

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Aug 29 2010, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Latest information.

Certain acquisitions for Les Catalans:

Vincent Duport (Toulouse) -- centre/winger
Ian Henderson (NZ Warriors) -- hooker
Scott Dureau (Newcastle Knights) -- scrum half
Lopini Paea (Sydney Roosters) -- prop
Jason Baiteiri (Sydney Roosters) -- lock forward



Possible acquisitions for Les Catalans:

Ben Farrar (Manly Sea Eagles ) - center


Certain releases from Les Catalans:

Olivier Elima (to Bradford) -- second row
Dimitri Pelo (to Montpellier RU) - wing
Casey McGuire (retiring) -- hooker
Steve Bell (retiring) -- centre/wing
Andrew Bentley (to FC Lezignan) -- second row
Kane Bentley (no club) -- hooker
Dallas Johnson (North Queensland Cowboys) -- lock



Possible release from Les Catalans:

Chris Walker -- wing / full back



The club wanted to release the highly paid Johnson, because they have Mounis and Baiteiri to play lock, and then they can use the money to buy Ben Farrar.



Jason Baiteiri is, as you point out, the son of Tas Baiteiri. But that won't do him any favours with Bernard Guasch. Tas's stepson and Jason's half brother, the bilingual Nicolas Rayer, was a former CEO at Les Catalans, and he found it impossible to stay. According to my informants Nicolas was forced to resign by Bernard because he tried to run the club more like a modern legitimate business, rather than more like a Mediterranean brothel.

Hopefully Jason will have better treatment than Nicolas received. Obviously new coach Trent Robinson wanted him, and that will be his best support and protection, rather than his family connection. However he has only played one NRL game so far for Sydney Roosters, so likely he will start as back up for Mounis. But as such he will be not be wasting time for his career because injuries are sure to give him a few runs in the big time. He is also a good signing for the club because he is classed as French, not an import, yet has Australian experience.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 01 September 2010 - 06:10 AM.

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 06:08 AM

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Edited by ParisSurtout, 01 September 2010 - 06:09 AM.

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#5 audois

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 09:45 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 31 2010, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm not sure about this signing but at least he's French!

The big names from the NRL they have had recently like Ryles, Walker and Johnson have turned out to be duffers so maybe some lesser names will be keener to impress.


You think of the likes of Justin Murphy, John Wilson and especially Alex Chan, 'the padre' as they called him who all spilt blood for the cause. Not great players but committed to the cause fully. Got them to Wembley and third place in 2008 playing above themselves may be. The club have some re-building to do now. What is better now than when they first kicked off is that they've got a solid nucleus of half a dozen experienced French lads all with around 100 games under their belts, Guisset, Mounis, Bosc, Casty, Ferriol, Raguin and Fakir. This will make it easier for the next wave of youngsters. Expect something more especially from Baile and Martins in 2011. Both in early 20's but been out injured for most of this year. Fingers crossed.

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"It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires"
Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933

#6 dunno much

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 10:11 AM

Audois, have heard that Guasch is not too keen on some of his key Dragons players in taking part in the Euro Cup in October & may rest them. That & with Greenshields not being available, wouldn't this be a great opportunity to blood younger hopefuls?

#7 Hornetto

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 11:06 AM

Jason's been playing NSW Cup for the Newtown Jets this year (they have a feeder agreement with Easts).

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#8 audois

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE (dunno much @ Sep 1 2010, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Audois, have heard that Guasch is not too keen on some of his key Dragons players in taking part in the Euro Cup in October & may rest them. That & with Greenshields not being available, wouldn't this be a great opportunity to blood younger hopefuls?


Must admit wasn't aware that Bernard Guasch was against Dragons players taking part in EC. He's certainly not a fan of the mid-season Tests. Hadn't heard about Greenshields not available either. If so may be injury issues. Think the EC is really, really big for France with Four Nations riding on it. Its a chance for the French lads to get some credibility back into their game. Hope so.

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"Un grand bravo pour tout ce que vous avez fait, et merci de m'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure."


"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."
Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959


"It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires"
Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (Hornetto @ Sep 1 2010, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jason's been playing NSW Cup for the Newtown Jets this year (they have a feeder agreement with Easts).

Another Bluebag in SL.


Maybe we could apply for a license. The RFL are into expansion.

#10 winnyason

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:36 PM

They don't want to sign more overpaid duds that get homesick when the going gets tough, Baiteri is a strange one cannot see him getting a start even with elima gone and johnson, as carlaw, fakir, mounis will fill backrow.
To me they seem in the rebuilding stage, the off loading of johnson would suggest freeing up money for ben farrar.
Other rumours:
Griffi - to crusaders, kane bentley - wakefield or toulouse, Josh lewis - confirmed toulouse.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE (winnyason @ Sep 2 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They don't want to sign more overpaid duds that get homesick when the going gets tough, Baiteri is a strange one cannot see him getting a start even with elima gone and johnson, as carlaw, fakir, mounis will fill backrow.
To me they seem in the rebuilding stage, the off loading of johnson would suggest freeing up money for ben farrar.
Other rumours:
Griffi - to crusaders, kane bentley - wakefield or toulouse, Josh lewis - confirmed toulouse.



That would not be on the field compared to the NRL so if its homesick because of the Culture and different lifestyle. what does the Club do to make imports feel at home?

Surely Catalans or English Clubs should recognize the culture shock and have a professional setup that integrates the imports and eases the settling in period?


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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (winnyason @ Sep 2 2010, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They don't want to sign more overpaid duds that get homesick when the going gets tough, Baiteri is a strange one cannot see him getting a start even with elima gone and johnson, as carlaw, fakir, mounis will fill backrow.
To me they seem in the rebuilding stage, the off loading of johnson would suggest freeing up money for ben farrar.
Other rumours:
Griffi - to crusaders, kane bentley - wakefield or toulouse, Josh lewis - confirmed toulouse.



I don't know why you refer to the new signings as possible over paid duds. For a start you don't know what they are being paid. Whether they will be duds or not is yet to be determined.

The likely backrow of Mounis, Fakir, Carlaw and Raguin (one of these a bench player) will be backed up by Gossard and Baiteiri. Injuries occur every season, so that is when young Baiteiri will get a run, as I pointed out.

Sa is a utility, to be played at centre or second row.

Baile is ikely to be one centre. I am not sure if Farrar will be signed, and if he is, whether it is because Greenshields is leaving, or else to be an addition to Greenshields as a utility back (centre/fullback). Hopefully the latter.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 02 September 2010 - 11:12 PM.

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#13 Hornetto

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 07:26 AM

QUOTE (Jeffles @ Sep 2 2010, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe we could apply for a license. The RFL are into expansion.


I'd back that move. It's a shorter trip than neath.

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