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#3054092 Strange Choice?

Posted by Oxford on 10 January 2015 - 08:35 AM

 

 

The GF will be interesting if Catalans or Salford or someone unexpected go all the way.

 

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Wouldn't it just ?

 

And when I saw the list I must admit (the effect of the off season is very much with me at the moment :fie: ) I was a kid at the sweet shop window!




#3053484 Sponsors

Posted by Oxford on 08 January 2015 - 07:25 PM

No.
Club RU gets absolutely loads of coverage in the media. Acres of space in the printed papers (all of them but there are pages in certain ones) and it always gets good reports on the TV and radio sports reviews. Club RU gets some pretty good crowds now but it was like this even when games got 1500-3000.

Johnoco I'm surprised you're even making these points. Yes, they're true. Yes, they express the essential nature of the bias. But to say some fell on stony ground would be an understatement where the only result can be the twilight zone or a lock and key. Or is that what you want to happen? I can't see any other outcome because we're encouraged not to discuss these issues. Don't say I didn't warn you!




#3052374 Ladbrokes to sponsor Challenge Cup

Posted by Oxford on 06 January 2015 - 12:55 AM

I don't follow the logic here, would you also feel uneasy about e.g. Tetley's or McDonald's because alcoholism and obesity are large problems in this country? 

I think the point is searching the whole thread(s), the history of the universe and the entire Sioux Nation to find something negative, it's what your keyboard's for!

 

 

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#3052184 RL Hard Men

Posted by Oxford on 05 January 2015 - 04:52 PM

 - but just within the rules of the game. The pack -

 

 

I was just about to say that anything including Adrian Morley can't be bad as a choice! And then that phrase " within the rules of the game" struck me. I do think we're a little bit funny about our game sometimes and I suppose it stems from never wanting to think our guys are not squeaky clean and the other team is just too villainous for words, without breaking continually into the Anglo-Saxon vernacular! But when all's said and done the hard men are the stuff of legend because they tend to put the fear of God in the opposition and this is not based upon their recipe for fairy cakes! The biff and the bash are rarely within the rules of the game except when they're done by "our team" of course! So maybe, just maybe, we need to be a little more honest about what they're there for and why we prize them so highly.

 

Oxford 100% League 0% KfC       I believe in absolute freedom of expression. Everyone has a right to offend and be offended. Taslima Nasrin

"When people say call me John .......  "  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows, as well as something rather unseemly and off putting .Amanda Palmer (Misquoted deliberately)

               "And the pig got up and slowly walked away"   popular poem and song




#3052170 Sponsors

Posted by Oxford on 05 January 2015 - 04:23 PM

Why be so coy about comparing how the RFU promotes it's sponsors and partners on its website with how the RFL promotes - or rather - doesn't promote them whatsoever of their website? Are they both not comparable variables? Want more sponsors? Then maybe a decent website promoting them might be a the most basic of starts! 

Because it serves no positive purpose!

 

If you compared like with like that would be a judgement on how well the RFL and the sport as whole are doing! When you compare them to a sport that has loads of advantages and very few of the drawbacks League finds itself saddled with you are comparing major league baseball with dyke vaulting and neither can learn anything useful. Hope that explains it, but that isn't the only thing that your post was about so why be so coy?

 

 

Oxford 100% League 0% KfC       

I believe in absolute freedom of expression. Everyone has a right to offend and be offended. Taslima Nasrin

"When people say call me John .......  "  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows, as well as something rather unseemly and off putting .Amanda Palmer (Misquoted deliberately)

              "And the pig got up and slowly walked away"   popular poem and song




#3052156 Salford Red Devils

Posted by Oxford on 05 January 2015 - 03:58 PM

You are just using this to jump on Leigh as being unfit for SL, your usual pro SL anti championship waffle.

 

This is the first time I've come across these kind of labels for people in the disunity our sport seems to adore! When did we stop thinking of those outside our game as the real villains ( not because they're an axis of evil - though in some cases this could be an apt description - but because they're competitors) and begin to think of other leaguies as the problem? Anger turning in on itself is never a good look!

 

Also no mention of  SRD which is the whole point to this thread! So top, middle or bottom for the Devils? What do you reckon keighley? 

 

 

Oxford 100% League 0% KfC       I believe in absolute freedom of expression. Everyone has a right to offend and be offended. Taslima Nasrin

"When people say call me John .......  "  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows, as well as something rather unseemly and off putting .Amanda Palmer (Misquoted deliberately)

              "And the pig got up and slowly walked away"   popular poem and song




#3051837 2015 - Middle 8 Predictions

Posted by Oxford on 04 January 2015 - 06:35 PM

This has certainly got people interested and wasn't that the whole point?

 

I think that all SL clubs have put some real effort into signings this time around because of fear which is the true result relegation, whatever its champions say!

This does make it really every moment matters but predictions interesting and informative though they are, are the stuff dreams, prejudices and agendas are made

of ,Petal! A lot of posters are at pains to point out that you can't buy success but everyone it seems knows the formula for where each team will end up - I think it's a little bit more tricky than that! IMO

 

 

"When people say call me John ......."  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows.Amanda Palmer

"And the pig got up and slowly walked away"  popular poem and song



#3051565 Sponsors

Posted by Oxford on 03 January 2015 - 07:45 PM

Sponsors are usually companies looking to present a brand to a specific demographic that has the disposable income to purchase that product or service.  People on here saying that some sponsors are not concerned with any ROI are talking out of their backsides. Advertising and marketing is a very sophisticated science nowadays and it is constantly measured and benchmarked against previous campaigns continuously. 

 

The official list of sponsors and partners for the RFU include; O2, BMW, Bollinger, Marriott, Samsung, Canterbury, Ernst & Young, QBE, Guinness and Green King. There are quite a few more but they were easy to find on the RFU website on a scrolling slideshow with all the sponsors official logos and trademarks that are all linked to another page that sets out the relationship to the RFU in more detail. In contrast, the only thing I could find on the RFL website was a page called 'sponsors & deals' that was 'restricted access' and required a login to see! 

I'm not sure of the point to this post. Was it to compare the brands of one sport and another? Could it be the mention on a sport's website comparison? Did you just want to find the RFL or RL wanting in some way or other? The first few sentences were great but comparing sponsors or their treatment is about as interesting as comparing the sports! And why this sport's website rahrahther than any other? The connections seem laboured and contrived and the lack of reasoning makes it all the more spurious. The same kind of people who are attracted to the sport you mention are also attracted to the brands you mention and I'm sure a great number of tedious events which is more of an indication of the relative socio-economic differences between the sports and their fan make up but such information can only help the product your selling if there is a connection between the different facets. The RFL "bless" have to start from somewhere that the sport you insist on using as an example has about as much idea about as David Cameron understands what it's like to be poor! Had you used a sport that had a similar profile to league it would have at least made some sense and may have proven useful in how the RFL and the sport as a whole might move on.

 

 Over priced , over rated products do help put bums on seats but wishing for this kind of thing can also change the very thing you love into something you no longer like!

 

 

"When people say call me John ......."  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows.Amanda Palmer

"And the pig got up and slowly walked away"  popular poem and song



#3051554 Salford Red Devils

Posted by Oxford on 03 January 2015 - 07:15 PM

It was made very clear from the start of the Koukash regime that changes were to be made to more than just the playing squad, so no, you're not missing something.

The short term tactics and long term strategy of MK have been clear from the beginning for those who are not angered by image.

Those mostly boring and turgid rants about him by pundits and posters were so far off the mark that it beggars belief!

I do not recall the same kind of " You can't buy success!" and  "It will be a long term project!" rubbish flying around other clubs or their leaders that all too often echoes around here when it comes to SRD. 

And those who point to clubs who now have vibrant top to bottom  local/grass roots professionalism well it was about time for most of them to be honest.

There is a difference between the Red Devils then and now and that's brilliant hope it comes to fruition for them and a few other clubs because we all need this to remind us how interesting life used to be!

 

"When people say call me John ......."  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows.Amanda Palmer

"And the pig got up and slowly walked away"  popular poem and song



#3051193 Sponsors

Posted by Oxford on 02 January 2015 - 05:56 PM

i think people look at this too simplisticly, simply stating the RFL are incompetent. Paying the NRL or quoting gobbledygook is nonsense for this thread.
There have been some decent posts here, imho a lot of the issues are deep-rooted and wont just be fixed by hiring a RU man, or an Aussie - if it was that easy they would have done it.

Our game is invisible in large parts of the country and large parts of society. A lot of sports investment is linked to prestige or sentimentality or being aspirational, and we are way behind competitors on these fronts.

Yes but blaming the RFL is much easier Dave T and stops you from developing typist finger syndrome and more complex arguments mean you have to look down at the keys more when you type!

The answer would never be some one from KfC because they wouldn't know how to sell a sport that does have a guaranteed media coverage worth speaking about and some one from the NRL wouldn't know where to begin with a sport that isn't vying for premier position with just a couple of competitors! A view of adverts very close to these posts will tell you everything you need to know about the level, and size of the undertaking involved. Even among some of our so called closest supporters, fans and pundits this is barely understood, appreciated or thought to be important! But they are very adept at being dismissive if you mention it!

 

 

"When people say call me John ......."  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows.Amanda Palmer

"And the pig got up and slowly walked away"  popular poem and song



#3051187 Salford Red Devils

Posted by Oxford on 02 January 2015 - 05:39 PM

In an ideal world, you are right. However, at the time of the move (and for several years before), the Salford club couldn't have organised a heavy drinking session in a brewery! Barton was the only option on the table, Salford didn't have two ha'pennies to rub together and were just relieved to be offered a new ground. I think the club might have accepted a ground in Wigan if one had been offered. (joke!).

I think you're wrong about alternatives I believe the City Council considered Timbuktu and  John Wilkinson had his heart set on Kathmandu but the bus service from the Trafford Centre only ran on the third Tuesday of every month , ;) and they did have two halfpennies from the sale of whatever his name was to where ever he went!

 

 

"When people say call me John ......."  the Beiderbeck Affair   "There's a huge cloud of shame around ------ and ----------- being seen as bedfellows.Amanda Palmer

"And the pig got up and slowly walked away"  popular poem and song



#3047552 Pathetic, paranoid, pitiful - RL World's view on RL many fans

Posted by Oxford on 20 December 2014 - 08:46 PM

:rtfm:  :fie:  :angry:  :blackeye:  :help:  If you imagine exiled that what you wrote here is more balanced and sane than people being upset about SB going then you really need to take a break, it's all got too much for you, and this can happen! SB leaving is a fact of life that people have to deal with in their own way. My own reaction to anyone who leaves is simple, goodbye, see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!  :bye: People come and people go and no one, repeat no one, is indispensable!

In the meantime seasons greetings to you and yours :santablack: Oxford




#3046466 A media mention of RL

Posted by Oxford on 17 December 2014 - 06:55 PM

I wonder how many regulars there are on here. If each of us had an e-mail we could send every monday during the season to, let's say, 10 papers complaining about the lack of coverage of RL I wonder if we could make an impact? We'd all write our own, so as not to be discounted as a bot, but we could BCC to the same 10 papers...

Great suggestion, a line of links, that is proactive. Annoy the hell out the complacent, condescending pretend journalists!

 

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#3046042 RL Hard Men

Posted by Oxford on 16 December 2014 - 04:53 PM

:santa:

Oxford I appreciate what you say but it was not my intention of putting anybody down. As I say to play at that level you had to be hard just to take the physicality of the game.

I never take offence Knottla always just looking to be balanced that's all, so I hope I didn't upset you in any way. I save upsetting people for fans and apologists of another sport! ;)  And you're quite right even the "softies" in our game are heroes and hard men:paladin:

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#3045524 RL Hard Men

Posted by Oxford on 15 December 2014 - 01:52 PM

My view is that anybody that plays at pro or semi pro are all hard men.I think there are genuine hard men but there are also players that strike out  just out of self survival.

I think the point of the thread was always those that stuck out in an individuals memory and experience and was in no way intended to do other players down!