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buford t justice

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#3200027 Flexi ticket

Posted by buford t justice on 25 September 2015 - 09:50 AM

Probably not a viable option, but id love to see the championship clubs get together and sell a season ticket that covers all your clubs games home and away.

#3199274 Kear confirmed

Posted by buford t justice on 24 September 2015 - 08:15 AM

Just a couple of points, if I may, Greavsey.
Firstly, I doubt the coach forbade "the more attacking approach."
I think the close defeats are more to do with out playmakers not being good enough - enough of the time.
Injuries to 6,7,9 & 13 for extended periods didn't help, and we've seen on occasion that they can play expansive and entertaining rugby. As you imply, if rumours are to be believed, our fortunes should pick up next season.
Since the early '80s (and probably before I started watching Batley), I don't think it's a coincidence that our most successful periods have coincided with halfbacks willing and able to open up the opposition with apparent ease. Tommo, Moore, Handforth & Black could all do it.

We have had 2 seasons of more or less the same one man dull rugby though, and a decent turnover of players - surely that cant be down solely to injuries and bad luck? Must be a bit to do with the coaching.

And before I get accused of Kear bashing again,I dont think he is totally to blame but im fed up of people seemingly leaving him completely blameless when its clear we have been found wanting tactically on numerous occasions.

When we got to the grand final we played a lot of one man rugby then too, but it somehow worked as we had a terrific team spirit that year that spurred us on, which for me seemed to leave when the nucleus of the local based players left.

Wakefield fans complained of Kears one man dull rugby, so i cant imagine things will change much next year with him in charge, we just have to hope the players coming in gel and have a bit of creative nous to nick us some wins.

As a paying customer, all i want is to be entertained, and Kears tactics throughout his coaching career dont appear to focus on entertaining rugby which is a shame.

I agree half backs make a big difference though, so heres hoping next season we have a couple of generals on field to get our attack moving better.

#3199271 Super 8s

Posted by buford t justice on 24 September 2015 - 08:09 AM

Good in principle, id like to see a middle 8 type league between championship and championship 1 though instead of the mickey mouse championship shield.

#3197878 Kear confirmed

Posted by buford t justice on 21 September 2015 - 08:02 PM

I can sympathise with every batley fans view of kear
Whether it's the stark realism that he is heading you towards disaster,or he's the saviour
Personally I feel he's possibly the best man for the job at the present time
No money...or very little to splash around
Again keeping you in the top tier
Credit where due..he has a wealth of experience.. And even looks like a bulldog when he's scuttling inbetween the bench and changing rooms between games

I'd dread to think what the bloke could achieve with a proper warchest

Finding a coach that work wonders on a shoestring would be virtually impossible with the wage demands of mediocre halfbacks these days
If you've landed Brambani & walker..it's something to build on

But if it turns to doo doo after a few games
And the recruitment has not been up to scratch

The fans of batley need to raise the blame game a little above Kear's head

And demand answers

At times Coolie, when you put your mind to it, you do post some very well thought out good stuff.

This is one of those moments, although you may be a little less diplomatic had you watched us week in week out, but as an outsider looking in you are pretty much bang on the money with this post.

#3197809 Kear confirmed

Posted by buford t justice on 21 September 2015 - 06:48 PM

So sending them out to do what they like obviously works from an entertainment point of view

It does!

But its a bit risky in games that matter, thats where we have fallen down tactically IMO, not adventurous enough in the final third.

Lets hope the experience of Walker and Brambani are the missing link we have been missing, otherwise it really is just bad coaching - the pressure is really on Kear next season.

#3197769 Kear confirmed

Posted by buford t justice on 21 September 2015 - 06:04 PM

Buford will be pleased ;)

So this goes from the heart to his care assistant who will bring him his tea tonight
In arkham asylum ;)

No knifes or forks

Personally I'm glad john's got another year

Well your not gonna get someone much better for the brass ;)

We dont sack coaches at Batley, is the stance we are proud of, no matter how badly they do.

After 2 seasons of dire rugby he owes us a season of attacking rugby but im not holding my breath, he should have gone half way through last season, but what do I know.

Ill give him the first 6 games of next season, if its more of the same im afraid heres one die hard fan who wont be back, and I wont be the only one.

As alluded to earlier though, the Kearosaurus coild well be our very own Wozza saga.

#3197647 Scott.s gone

Posted by buford t justice on 21 September 2015 - 02:26 PM

He was very poor during his time here, so im surprised at the fact they are remaining full time and have taken him on full time.

Maybe a full time environment will bring him on, but no great loss IMO - the 2 half backs we are rumoured to have coming in are both twice the player he will ever be.

#3196233 Not As Bad As It Seems

Posted by buford t justice on 19 September 2015 - 02:17 PM

I note from your website that you should have actually had a more successful year in reality:


If only the RFL hadn't changed the rules without informing the clubs.

A pathetic thing to put on - the rules are different and even with bonus points we are in roughly the same position.

The club for whatever reason seem to be in a fantasy land where nothing is wrong and ignoring the fact that for 2 seasons running we have been absolutely dog s#it on the field!

Lets do another table of how many games teams have thrown away leads, been tactically outclassed, taken one man drives and taken the wrong option near the line - we'd be in super league.

Weve lost 20 out of 29 games, possibly 21 out of 30 after tomorrow - thats a pretty poor effort and its quite embarrassing that we feel the need to sugar coat it, polishing turds doesnt work, and you just end up with it smeared all over the floor.

#3195494 Season Summary / Post Mortem

Posted by buford t justice on 18 September 2015 - 11:49 AM

When it is said on here how the Club should be run it seems to me we are comparing to an ideal world and it is not easy to disagree.
If we compare like for like which Clubs do posters think are better run Clubs at our level.
So forget SL as that is a different model and stick to Championship or if you want Championship 1.
Which Clubs have shown great marketing and employ a commercial manager and have improved gates over a few years and over a few years have done well on playing side?
(That exercise shows how difficult it is. However it does not mean we do not strive to improve.)
So, which Clubs and why?

I agree with Colin that Dewsbury are setting a good example both on and off the field - I know when I tried to get hold of old programmes a while ago there was someone there when i rang at 4pm and they bent over backwards to help, and seemed to have plenty of staff, yet we are only open 9-12 and some times theres not even anyone there duriong those times.

Hunslet similarly on a smaller budget than us and with a rented stadium, seem to have plenty of staff available during business hours and doing a quick google of some other championship clubs on a par with us such as Whitehaven and Keighley they open all day through the week - this could be a good starting point to make the club more productive and efficient behind the scenes and the extra hours could be spent on promotions and marketing - I know money is tight but IMO this is a key role at any sporting club and even a part time appointment to fill the remaining hours of the day would lead to a massive improvement on what we currently have and pay for itself in the long run.

Im sure its a thankless task running a club like ours, as all the directors are volunteers. maybe advertising for a marketing director to come on board could be an option? Im sure there would be plenty of interest from people with marketing backgrounds who might do the role alongside their existing job.

#3194646 Season Summary / Post Mortem

Posted by buford t justice on 17 September 2015 - 10:13 AM

Just to clarify Rons Club membership is to get in that bar prematch not to watch game in there.
Who says there are people on freebies?

Its whats been said on the terraces for a while Kevin and to be fair ive observed instances of it first hand over the years, it does rankle a little bit as a paying supporter.

I really dont care about the politics though, its for you to look into if you want to, I was just elaborating on Gold Dogs post.

This was meant to be a thread for open debate, but it does seem that you are a bit defensive Kevin and arent looking at the points made with a completely open mind.

We all care about the club, we are only raising points because we feel they need addressing, yet you seem to be unwilling to accept any views that you dont believe or agree with.
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#3193820 Season Summary / Post Mortem

Posted by buford t justice on 15 September 2015 - 11:40 AM

So with just a meaningless end of season game with Hunslet left, the dust has almost settled on another season, which has been dissapointing to say the least - how does everyone feel about this season and how would you evaluate this year?






What have been the positives?


What have been the negatives?


What can be improved upon?


What do we need to do to avoid being in another relegation scrap next year?


I feel this is an interesting debate to have, and with the Chairman participating regularly on the forum, it could be a worthwhile exercise for the club to look at how the fans are feeling too.


No witch hunts, no slanging matches, just genuine supporters evaluating honestly how we have done and how we can imnprove for next year.



#3192401 player of the year

Posted by buford t justice on 12 September 2015 - 10:17 PM

Rowe, James Brown and Reittie for me.

#3191997 HUNSLET V FEV.

Posted by buford t justice on 12 September 2015 - 11:58 AM

However we will improve next year and not be in this position.

I sincerely hope you are right Kevin, though I seem to recall we said this last year.

I hope you dont class me in your list of 'negative' posters on here btw - im a genuine hard core fan who is simply fed up of the dross on field the last 2 seasons, and what frustrates me more is certain fans seem happy to carry on as if nothings wrong for fear of upsetting people, and thats not my style!

#3191799 HUNSLET V FEV.

Posted by buford t justice on 12 September 2015 - 08:25 AM

Congratulations to everyone, players, staff.
It is a great achievement to stay in the Championship for so long, and continue our record of never having been relegated.
It has been a great response after the disappointment of the Featherstone game.

And the award for the most absurd post ever on this forum goes to.........(drum roll).......NEILS!

Celebrating mediocrity and the most forgettsble season we have had in years - make no wonder the views of supporters will never truly be represented on here when some fans display goldfish like memory capability week on week with regards to on field performances.

Lets aim to stay up with 3 games to go next year and hope we have a third successive season of poor one man rugby (we are re-signing the same players and still have the same coach, and due to our impressive season you have just alluded to we have hardly any prize money again so I just know we can do it!) - you can then organise an open top bus and a street party in the town centre!

#3191277 SS signs for the Dogs

Posted by buford t justice on 11 September 2015 - 11:36 AM

I am not sure anyone, and that includes Featherstone supporters, think tonight is an automatic result. Personally, l can see a Hunslet win. Then it all gets interesting.

The Hunslet players have apparently been offered a "substantial win bonus" should they win tonight, such is the importance of the game, it really is win or bust for them.

If they win and we lose on Sunday, its a real squeaky bum afternoon at the Mount next weekend.