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  1. Germany

    it is more like 5.000 - 8.000 for the 15-a-side a code. I think 15.000 was the attendance at 7s tournament at Munich Oktoberfest
  2. Germany

    I came in touch 2009 or so watching a CC game on BBC and I liked what I saw. In 2011 I head to the 4N to London and it was a blast. I actually head over to England 1-3 times a year to the big Events, e.g. RLWC, 4N, GF, CC, MW. The GF is a must attend event for my wife and myself ever since. I'm not involved in German RL although I try to attend Internationals with Family.
  3. Germany

    Well I am a German and Football is king. Anyhow Handball, Volleyball, Basketball as team sports are really big and pretty much played in every town and every school. These sports have significant members/player pool. Ice hockey managed to have a professional league and is indeed popular in certain cities with limited player pool. Rugby and in particular RU was quite popular before WW2. Somehow Rugby is now a minor sport. American Foorball seems superior at least on TV but I am not sure about player pool. One reason why American Football is more known than Rugby is probably the amount of schooldkids and students having an exchange year in the US. In terms of Rugby/RU strongholds are Heidelberg, Frankfurt and Hannover. RU got a big financial backer and aim for RUWC2019. All RU internationals are nowadays on TV. RUWC qualifiers attracted a crowd of 5.000-8.000. The 13-a-side code is even to RU Player unknown. Nevertheless NRL Deutschland are doing obviously a brilliant job. They lunched the bundesleague this year. A competition comprising 4 clubs. Then there are regular international fixtures. I was really surprised to see RLWC2017 on German TV. All games are livestreamed and the saturday fixtures are on TV with German commentary. I enjoyed the coverage so far. I hope this is just the start for further growth.
  4. Agreed. Nice interview. I rate him highly. He has done a good job at DAZN commentating the NRL in the past. You always felt his enthusiasm. I think it is important to have a german commentator for the RLWC to spread the game to newbies. By the way they live stream all 28 matches via their ran app available at android and apple.
  5. The RLWC is available on Pro Sieben MAXX in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Although MAXX is a niche channel it is free-to-air. I think what could benefit is the fact that MAXX also have some NFL and WWE rights. So they might target the right audience.
  6. Rugby League on German TV via VPN works. TV passes needed; week pass for a tenner
  7. Rugby League on German TV

    Well, I can understand why people who play or coach RL are not happy with the coverage as they know the rules and the difference to RU. But most Germans don’t. So people who might zap to an NRL match have no clue about codes, formats, and rules. I reckon these people are kind of happy that someone tells them. It’s just a matter of perspective. As I wrote before the MD distribution and rights told me that RL is currently not their focus but may consider RL in the future. So it is up to you and me to draw their interest, isn’t it? If SL rights would be available for little money they‘d probably go for it but it seems the RFL have no interest. I see we agree that DAZN have a bigger reach. Let’s see how subscription numbers go and how they cope with the new NRL season.
  8. Rugby League on German TV

    I have different view on that. Although I didn’t find any figures about subscriptions I assume the target to be economically successful must be above 1m customers. Otherwise they won’t be able to afford all the high-priced football licenses. I therefore reckon DAZN is not as small as you suggest. Surely they had and probably will have further difficulties to achieve their targets but given the range of sports they have on offer I think they are here to stay. They now have lots of commercials on TV and cooperate with Sport1 – the leading public sports channel. I am pretty sure they will compete with SKY and others pay tv channels in the future. From a technical point of view there is no difference between SKY and DAZN as both require some kind of device (set-top box). Access to DAZN is quite simple as there are apps for pretty much all devices including smart TVs, PS4, Apple TV box, Amazon TV box/stick etc. A lot of people already have such devices and the quality of the streams is good and stable. In terms of NRL commentary I think it wasn’t that poor. So far there is no RL competition in Germany. The game is played by very few so I guess there won’t be many suitable commentators available with deep knowledge of the game. I have been watching pretty much all NRL games last year on DAZN and to be fair the commentary was always neutral - no RL bashing or considering RL as the lesser code. At Bath RU games they mentioned the outstanding skills of RL converts Charnely and Solomona. Surely they struggled with the RL terms given their RU background but I doubt new viewers figured that out. You then have to keep in mind that lots of People in Germany, Austria, Swiss, (and Japan) don’t feel comfortable with the English language. So to have games (majority was still original commentary) in German language is a good compromise. is still available via VPN with servers in non geo-restricted locations, e.g. Netherlands. Unlike DAZN is only known to RL diehards and only web-based. I am not aware of any apps for TV boxes or smart TVs. All in all I do think that DAZN is a good option to open up a new audience.
  9. Rugby League on German TV

    DAZN nowadays call themselves „home of rugby“. They currently have the major European RU competition in their portfolio. In terms of RL they streamed only the NRL last year - no 4 Nations, no Super League. With the new season kicking off in a few days I dropped an email to the Managing Director Rights & Distribution asking if they secured the Super League rights 2017. I got a response and I was told that DAZN are focussing on RU as the more popular rugby code in Germany but may consider RL in the future. I also dropped an email and 2 reminder email to the RFL (Nigel Wood, Mark Foster, Danny Kazandijan) wondering if they are aware of DAZN and if they don’t wanna distribute Super League rights to DAZN. No reponse.
  10. Auckland Nines

    Sydney hosted the HSBC World Rugby Sevens this weekend and they turned out in numbers.
  11. It was shown on German TV at ARD's "sportschau" today at 6pm. They did even mention that the Kiwi's currently prepare for the 4 nations final against Australia. Unfortunately they just said "rugby". Anyhow some kind of promo in Germany.
  12. Germany 32 Wales Dragonhearts 40

    What happened to NRL Deutschland fundraiser which were initiated last year? Haven't seen any adds recently. The build up to the match was on facebook NRL Deutschland only. Adds in local/regional newspaper might increase crowd figures. The people I met enjoyed the entertaining game. So I'd assume some of them and others would attend Deutschland games in the future if they're aware of.
  13. Germany 32 Wales Dragonhearts 40

    I think what also needs to be mentioned is the crowd. I guess there were approx. 300-400 people and the atmoshere were brilliant. Compared to matches I attended a few years ago (vs Serbia and Italy) it is a massive step forward. Seems like RL in Germany is making progress. Hope to see more internationals in the future and at some point a club competition.
  14. I've just read the fixtures of Elites 1/2 season. What happened to Toulon XIII and Castres XIII start ups? I'd have thought that their aim is to compete at Elite level but they still seem to compete at National level?
  15. Rugby League on German TV

    Well, I used my amazon fire stick and installed DAZN. It is quite interesting. Pretty much all major football leagues (England, Italy, Spain, Belgium, …) are available live and as catch up. Then also NFL, NBA, MMA, Motorsports and other sports too. Rugby Union (Aviva and TOP14) will be added beginning of next season. Monthly costs are at 9,99 EURO. Given the price and the content I think they will attract a lot of people as none of these sports or leagues are available at major tv networks. I dropped an email to DAZN and asked if it is intended to expand the RL coverage with Super League. I was told that this isn’t the case but they keep the proposal. For the NRL coverage 1 game each round is in German language. Jan Lüdecke and Manuel Wilhelm (former German RU international) are the commentators. I have just seen the cowboys v warriors match and these 2 lads have done a decent job given their RU background. So I personally think this is good for RL in Germany.