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    I think it will be remembered as a poor final. Taking nothing away from Wire who were excellent (as much as it pains me to say), Leeds were dreadful and should have lost by more. It meant the game was effectively over as a contest and it always required a massive turn around from Leeds. It's a shame because it started well with high intensity and the crowd came across really well on TV. The kit clash was just plain silly. I was following Twitter throughout and most people were commenting on the same team playing each other. The RFL needs some common sense and Leeds need to recognise what an away kit is supposed to do.
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    Sorry Mick but writing in the style of a child doesn't mean that everybody understands it.
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    Still not found it then Mick? What a pointless reply.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_leag..._medium=twitter Further news.
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    http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/14782.php I knew they were hard but like a car hitting you at 50mph is a bit too much for my liking! Toughest team sport in the world.
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    I don't think it's a lost cause by any means. I think Quins is however. Many of their incarnations have had their problems. For instance the first few were not long term enough, so despite high initial crowds they pulled out too quickly. I have a Rothmans were Fulham's average in the second division is higher than the first division average. Since Super League began they have had the problem of being seen as a foreign outpost of Northern and Australian centric RL. They often fielded teams of exclusively Australian players with little youth development or amateur clubs to underpin it. This with the constant moving meant they had no identity of their own. Recently they have been getting things right in certain areas. They are a representation of London RL now and have a good number of locally produced players, some of who have played for England. However they are trapped by the Quins thing. I think they should move again, I don't know where but it needs to be an independent club that they can market independently. I don't think they should have a silly moniker like the Bronco's either but be known simply as London Rugby League.
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    Of course they would. The tone was meant to be sarcastic as often whenever figures, no matter how dodgy, are questioned people are shouted down for being negative, or having agendas etc. It's usually whenever it involves an expansion club. I know the figures don't look right, but being out of debt is a positive. I would also question exactly why we would fiddle the accounts to have a turnover 2 and a half times bigger than required. If you're fiddling the accounts then surely you wouldn't do it by that much. When Halifax announced their dubious crowd to meet the criteria, they didn't decide to go for a crowd of 11,000!
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    I'm sure they would as would the majority of Rugby League. Admitting defeat with a London RL club would have bad consequences for the game I think.
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    Why would they? You're not understanding the point at all. Season tickets make the clubs more money because it guarantees them a certain amount of money from a number of fans. If they didn't offer them the reality would be that they would end up with less money even though the individual games price are more as people would not attend for whatever reason. Almost every ST holder I know doesn't make it to every game. I bought one for my 2 nephews who have probably made a third of the games. Therefore as a business Season Tickets make sense. They provide you with guaranteed income higher than that you would get without them. They also provide it at the beginning of the season, allowing you to plan. NRL clubs have never needed them because of other revenue streams but they are starting to increase them year on year because they are financially beneficial. You have no evidence that Flextickets would increase income, none at all. Therefore suggesting that clubs would somehow be stuck in the past for not using them doesn't work. Clubs will use them if they increase income, if they don't they won't. That's Capitalism. Not all clubs would jump on straight away but the best would and the rest would see the benefit. Say Hull FC sold 10,000 season tickets this year. That's a guaranteed say
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    Not the issue whatsoever. RL is a capitalist sport and as such if they work they will be adopted as it means more revenue. If they don't they won't. I suspect we'll see one club try it and others will then follow suit. Take the example of Bullmania and how many clubs in RL (and Union) susequently adopted their methods.
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    Once again we see another positive thread derailed by people with their agenda's who just want Widnes to desperately fail.... Oh wait that only happens when it's expansion clubs. With every other club it's just a natural message board conversation developing from unexpected news. I'm fairly sure there's some creative accounting going on but at the end of the day we've ticked that box and we're out of debt which is positive news however you look at it.
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    Seems like a good idea but it's not perfect. Season tickets are good from a clubs perspective because it makes people commit to going to 13 or so games. Now this is completely independent of whether or not the club does well. They make the purchase when they are optimistic about the season. I would also suggest that it encourages people to attend games even if they don't fancy it. Many people will go simply because they have paid. It also means that people have paid even if there is a change to their circumstance and they can no longer attend games. From a personal point of view it would be ideal. I haven't bought myself a season ticket for at least 10 years. I can't guarantee that I can make all or most of the games and I have rarely had the money to shell out all at once. This year I've been a few games but not all games that I could have made, sometimes I haven't fancied paying for a game that doesn't appeal to me when I'm skint. I would be much more likely to pay for a flexticket, especially one that I could use with friends or give away if I couldn't make it. The club would benefit as it would guarantee more frequent attendance from people like me. However I fear a club would see a reduction in the number of season tickets in exchange for flextickets. If the team started the season poorly, they may not get another ticket. Also in my experience many fans experience a mid-season lull anyway and may decide to pick and choose their games after that. It's a tough one. If it was my club I would definitely suggest something like flextickets being brought in half-way through the season. It will take one club to try them out before we see if they work or not. If they do, all clubs will jump on it because it's win win. If they don't then they won't. It's a bit like the season ticket, I'm sure one club started them first and other's followed suit because they work.
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    Sorry that's what you get for typing too fast. I meant to say hopefully it will be a move and not for instance the end of London RL. The bit about Quins not working wasn't meant to be linked to that point really.
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    Good stuff. I've always had a soft spot for Oldham and if anything their decline over the past decade or so is the saddest of all Championship clubs. I remember the last time Widnes came into Super League we defeated Oldham in the GF. That is how close Oldham came to a very different future and who knows where they would be now. They also used to get crowds that were one of the best in the league. I always keep an eye out for their results and hope that one day they get back to where they deserve.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_leag...don/8944609.stm Surprised this went unnoticed. Quotes like this from McDermott are very worrying. I can't see them pulling the plug completely but are we looking at another move? Hopefully, I think the Quins experiment has failed. It was worth a risk but they are trapped in a situation where they are totally overshadowed by a club that 95% of people can't differentiate them from.
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    http://www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519 Apparently we had a turnover of
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    4th is clearly better than 5th for the simple fact that they get a second bite of the cherry and at home. The 'roll on' idea doesn't work as it can be easily countered by an equally likely alternative. Say Leeds finish 4th and narrowly lose to Wigan and then go on to play Hull at home who have easily beaten the Crusaders. Who is better prepared in the Leeds Hull game? The RFL should resort back to 6th and I think most people would agree with that. I think they are keeping it because they are worried about clubs having nothing to play for with the taking away of promotion and relegation. However I don't think the race for 8th stirs up particularly much excitement because the chances of winning are so remote and most people realise that 8th isn't a great achievement.
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    Recently I was in Dublin and I was looking round a book shop when I saw a book called 'sporting heroes.' Now I don't know about anyone else, but I always check these kind of books to see if they include RL or just 'rugby' and I figured being an Irish bookstore it might not. I was pleasantly surprised to find it did and the first RL hero was Billy Boston. It was the first line that shocked me, it was something like this, It didn't seem right and I'm fairly sure it can't be and that they must mean 6.9 million. Even so that is a really impressive number. For instance total attendance this year will be around the 2.5 million mark. However I'm not sure I'd call it the sports Golden Age. Whilst we used to beat the Aussies with a degree of regularity and many clubs competed for trophies, we were very limited geographically and international attendances in this country were small. Personally I'd say 87-95 will be seen as the Golden Age. I can't speak for attendances, but nationally we had a lot of stars and internationally crowds were the highest they ever were. We also had many classic events like Wigan beating Manly in 87 and Brisbane in 92. The running the Aussies close so many times as well. When do you think the Golden Age was or are we in it now?
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    I apologise, I must have mistaken you with another group. I'll delete the above post. Keep up the good work!
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    Dissappointed that he'll leave this way. He's been the best servant of Widnes RL through a very difficult time and wish him all the best hopefully at a Super League club.
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    Get a life. You know nothing about me and don't try and imply that you do. Instead of resorting to a pathetic personal attack, try and point out where I've been wrong or haven't used facts.
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    I don't think there is much negativity on this topic. I certainly didn't aim to come across that way, I would always suggest caution with getting carried away but pretty much the whole game thinks they deserve their chance and they do. There hasn't been a single person on this thread who hasn't said that. Handled well this could be great for RL but some of that success would have to go down to the work done and the lessons learned in Bridgend.
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    I'd agree with Dally, there was no personal abuse. Simply a disagreement. Without disagreements nobody would ever go on forums.
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