Trojan

We know all that. But a 10 minute period of play followed by perhaps the golden point would have been more satisfactory. TBH 'Fax were coming so strong in the last twenty I reckon they'd ahve won anyway. But it would have seemed more complete somehow.

I was disappointed that Fev lost. But it was the way they lost that left me feeling a bit empty. It was a great game, and Fev were never behind until they lost the game. Surely another way can be found. In fact why not a replay in future - there are no further fixtures, so where's the problem? Alternatively, a suggestion from the Fev site, 10 minutes for a golden try, and then the golden point.

Information. According to Radio Manchester this morning there's a long running problem with the Meto link on the Eccles line.

He pinged us once for offside, he didn't ping them at all for offside - at one PTB they were at least three metres in front of him and TBF most of the game we stayed onside. I'm not keen on Robert Hicks. It's the 50/50's that decide tight games. I thought most of those on Sunday went 'Fax's way.

I hadn't been to the HJ until Sunday, and I haven't been to Widnes. Of the "new" grounds I have been to my least favourite is Wigan. I'm not exactly svelt (I stood at the HJ, I prefer to stand) but if the seats at Warrington were small I bet the seats at Wigan are smaller, and your legs are jammed against the seat in front - like they are at Elland Road for that matter - another ground I don't like. The best "new" ground I've been on is the KC.

Can't argue with that.

I know it's hindsight, but if we'd put over the one pointer, we'd still have been in the lead when the hooter went. I think the reasoning is that you put over the one pointer, they kick off long and you're under pressure in your 20 immediately. With 20/20 hindsight the drop goal would have won us the game, but who knows?

I think the golden point was an anti climax after a great game. Plus of course we were never behind until it was too late to do anything about it. Having said that, we were out on our feet and if we'd played an additional 10 mintues each way I reckon we'd still have lost. Unless of course the two big Fax forwards who were making all the inroads were also out on their feet. If ifs and ands etc.

I think our ground compares favourably with the HJ. I was pretty disappointed. I'd never been before and it looks like a slum in the making to me. The PA was pathetic. TBH apart from P O Road there isn't a ground I've been on compares to Headingley - especially for representative games. I'm going to OT on Saturday and much as it pains me to say it Theatre of Dreams is an apt description - I write as somone who hasn't much time for Man U.

I didn't know positive pressure were playing - but it's a good job their fans were there by the sound of it

TBH I like a drink as much as the next bloke. But I don't often drink before I watch Rugby - although I have been known to imbibe in the Moon Under Water before the GF just to be sociable with other forum members. But normally I don't drink before I watch Rugby because if I've had a drink I've a job sorting out what's going on on the field and it spoils the game for me. I saw plenty of fans of both clubs the worse for wear en route to the ground. After the pitch invasion and the threat of confrontation I'd have thought the prudent thing to do would have been to close the bars, but there was still plenty of ale available. Many people on here will take the line of least resistance and blame Fev but I was at Headingley three years ago and watched Fev beat Oldham, and then Cas beat Widnes. Fev and Cas fans in the same ground with drink available sounds like a recipe for trouble - but I never saw any. So what was different this time? Perhaps it was the inaudible PA system? Or contradictary announcments. All I know is that when the 'Fax came onto the pitch, no one in the South stand knew why they were coming onto the pitch and assumed they wanted either to get the game stopped because 'Fax were losing, or they wanted to cause trouble.

In 1989 Fev beat Cas first game, and again in the Yorkshire Cup. The got to the YC final but didn't win another league game before Christmas, but the Fev fans were fairly content.

You couldn't hear the PA system. You couldn't hear throughout the entire match. The Halifax fans came on just after Fev had scored, and whether they like it or not those facing the south stand were making threatening gestures.

The sooner major Rugby League games can go back to sensible kick off times the better. For me 3-00pm is the time major games should kick off. the weird and wonderful kickoff times are all to suit Mr Murdoch's soccer schedules.

But administrative areas is exactly what counties are. If we're going to start claiming, then we (the West Riding of Yorkshire) will have Saddleworth, the Trough of Bowland and Sedberg back for starters.

Warrington is a large town, borough and unitary authority area of Cheshire, England http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington

I don't know whether it was the right decision or the wrong decision. I do know that we were never behind the whole game until it was too late to do anything about it, which in retrospect seems a bit unfair. Having said that, Fax looked the stronger team in the last 20 minutes of normal time. I'm terribly disappointed. I woke up this morning wondering why I felt miserable (even more miserable than ususal ) and then I remembered why.

If it's not in Cheshire why were the Cheshire police at the HJ today then?

I'll drive to Besses o' th' Barn at Jct 17 on the M60. Park there and get the tram - but then I'll be travelling from Yorkshire. If it wasn't for the fact that I promised a mate who a. lives in Barnsley and b. is a Wire fan who bought tickets last month convinced that Wire would be there - I wouldn't bother I just hope it's a good game. The last time I went to Saintw Wigan in 2000 (?) it was quite an exciting game. Robinson's last for the Pies.

The man who could probably throw some light on Maurice is saying nothing. Harry Gration left a good job at the Beeb to become PR Director at the RFL under Maurice - he lasted about 6 months IIRC. I reckon Harry's memoirs of those months would be worth reading. I'll not repeat my opinion of Lindsay again, I've posted it on here often enough.

Funnily enough however you regard Churchill, one thing about him as PM is seldom pointed out. He never won the popular vote at a General Election. He was appointed in 1940, he lost in 1945, he lost again in 1950 and it was only due to the vagaries of the electoral system that he became PM again in 1951, his party polling considerably less votes than Labour.

"At Watersheddin's it used t'be good To watch 'em feight for t'ball in t'mud But now the game has changed tha sees They can't play dirty on TV! Eddie Warin' is a bum Eddie Watin' is a bum Ey aye addy Eddie Warin' is a bum!" Oldham Tinkers

There used to be a commnetator on Radio Leeds called Jack Wainwright, and I remember him saying "all these great Leeds moves are coming off John Homes's balls" Sadly both are no longer with us.

The rugby players were from Cas so they probably cheated