J Phil Loxton

He always seems quite bitter when it comes to Fev. He just needs to enjoy himself a bit more I like banter like most but he needs to lighten up a bit. As you say TPH I find the vast majority of Yorks fans very decent on the various forums

Yeah Simon All clubs have got a minority of spectators that show themselves up. Fev have been used to being amongst the top dogs for a good many seasons in the championship as you might know and people love to see a rival fall from it's pedestal. I know I do with certain clubs but it is kind of refreshing to see how a club like York are doing and if Fev can't produce a minor miracle by winning the Grand final (should we make the top six) then who better to do it than York.

Getting ahead of yourself Simon. I didn't see anything like a Super League team on the pitch Theres a danger that you might be sounding like a Bradford fan soon. Having said that you took your chances well and we're by far the better side. York are the form team at the moment and it's great seeing the development there. Best team in the league by far. But you personally need to rein yourself in a little and enjoy the times

They are not the only club to inflate attendance figures to suit IMG. A certain obsessed IMG club in West Yorkshire allegedly do it also

Beckett Hardcastle Hampshire

My thoughts exactly TPH. Reading their forum reminds me very much of the Fev forum when we were in the market for every Tom Dick and Harry two or three seasons ago and doing everything possible to get to Super League. Their fans are just immitating the euphoria that was going around our club at the time. Nice while it's happening but since we hit the buffers slightly it is a warning to them that the promised land is NOT any day soon. But for some favoured clubs elsewhere it could be quite imminent.

Was the referee as bad as those Bradford fans are saying? One of their gob almighties says he should never officiate again. AND he counted that you only took 30 fans. Thanks York for brightening up everybody's weekend.

People advocating resting players earlier in the week. How dumb would that have been? There are no easy games in this league.

Rugby League is a very rough and tough sport, nowadays based on strength and power and it does worry me that these ladies like the men have to be super fit to play the game and would hope that they are being looked after in their respective training regimes. As for, which is the most important on a finals day? I would categorically say being a traditional man's game then the 1895 cup should and must take up the central stage where and when a woman's game takes place. One has to remember that teams like Bradford and Widnes for example have taken part in the sports top echelon and in their days at the top attracted large crowds and clubs like them and teams like Featherstone Halifax York and Oldham etc should not have ambitions taken away from them by being hidden away from the importance of the game by the present media.

I wouldn't underestimate any team and we need to take every game as it comes and always play our strongest side. Fair enough if they are injured then that can't be helped.

You'd end up drowning in a sea of tears

It's doesn't read that you were ref bashing. You highlighted the complexities of some decisions that have to be made quickly and on the spot. We all become aware of incorrect decisions and yet who would want to be a ref?

There was no criticism of you TPH. You bring up some very knowledgeable points in your posts. I just think it's a heavy responsibility for these young men who take up this role. I guess I'm old enough to remember when refs made the call and that was that. You are right though about linesmen but they always used to wave their flag frantically to draw attention to offside or foot in touch and now it's more often than not delivered through a mouth and ear piece which often delays a decision nowadays.

I feel sorry for these young refs. They have an ear piece listening to linesmen, listening to moaning players, moaning fans and probably someone else high up in the stand. Of course nowadays they are forced onto this technology because since the advancement of the internet, television replays and social media they are always up for questioning every action. I say bring back the days when the refs decision was final. Take out the ear pieces and let them do the job to the best of their ability. I've seen Fev and countless other teams robbed in the past in controversial circumstances before the advent of what's called modern technology but the thing is where as it taken the game to? Even more controversies.

Think Fev are getting stick from a certain clubs fans too. You know,the team with more fans than anybody else. There's a few decent fans among them but you have to rise above it. Well done to your club for a massive improvement in fortunes. Ignore the jealousy from fans from clubs that didn't compete.