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#2941730 2015 GB Lions tour off?

Posted by nec on 09 June 2014 - 05:17 AM

talk about completely missing the point of a combined celt team lol...

That is another short termist gimmick to give England tougher opposition than they would face from playing proper internationals? Or as a laughable northern hemisphere take on origin?

#2941189 Totally disillusioned with international rugby league

Posted by nec on 08 June 2014 - 12:05 PM

So what should we do? Abolish SOO because it is so successful? Why can't we just enjoy TGG for what it is?

Stop using it as the end in itself and start using it as a means to an end.

#2940900 2015 GB Lions tour off?

Posted by nec on 07 June 2014 - 06:10 PM

I'm torn, on the one hand the Aussies are seemingly hellbent on destroying international rl to protect the insular (almost) NAtional Rugby League; in the other hand they are preventing a pointless reversion to being GB. I will support any idea that involves genuine countries playing internationals against each other, not celtic tiggers, exiles, lancs, yorks. Think long term, get Toulouse in ASAP, stop pandering to those that won't attend matches regardless and build a structure to support international growth.

#2940527 Commonwealth Games Rugby League 9s

Posted by nec on 07 June 2014 - 08:29 AM

Only 6 Scottish born lads in the Scotland squad,surely it can't be right to use the grand parents qualification rule at U19 level.

Better that they have enough scots born to be credible but are competitive on home soil

#2928145 Six Game GB Tour planned for 2015

Posted by nec on 11 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

The era we are pandering to won't attend if any aspect of the game or tournament or pricing or rules or squad is not to their liking. The concept belongs in the past. It is appalling that England are not playing France, Wales, a pacific nation before they leave these shores to build on the momentum. To muddy the future potential with the outdated GB tour is so retrograde as to be laughable. We have a huge new constituency that bought into England rl, we are abandoning them to pander to traditionalists who thrive on finding reasons to downplay the modern game. Astonishing and reprehensible!

#2927759 Six Game GB Tour planned for 2015

Posted by nec on 11 May 2014 - 11:14 AM

We have a successful England rl brand that attracted big crowds in their last matches, I know let's not have them play at home again for 3 years :(

#2897327 History of this forum?

Posted by nec on 11 March 2014 - 05:56 PM

First started looking at VT when I got internet access thanks to Newcastle uni back in 1997, so I've been on all the various incarnations since then.

The whole late nineties/early 2000s was when I fell in love with RL, and this forum (+ Gateshead getting going) were key factors in my rugby education as a non-heartland fan. I was a complete Gateshead fan from the start and I would post anytime Gateshead was mentioned: I remember one poster (Carlisle Saint perhaps?) posted something along the lines of "Grinner, do you have a alarm that starts flashing any time anybody anywhere on the internet posts about Gateshead Thunder?" Made me laugh that. These days my Gateshead interest has waned since I moved to Scotland, most of my rugby watching is on telly, and the odd big game 'down south'.

Great to remember some of the names from the past, some sadly departed to pasture new.

yes that was me, pre empting the technological advances that mean you can be told every time anyone mentions your side

#2871685 Sky Sports - New TV Deal (Merged Threads)

Posted by nec on 30 January 2014 - 08:59 AM

The rfl don't need to put a value on the deal, one of the chairmen will be indiscreet enough for us to know the full details soon

#2858844 Where does the amateur game go from here?

Posted by nec on 02 January 2014 - 08:26 PM

Sad thing is NEC is that I've not seen a single cogent argument against the Operational Rules which seem to be the centre of all this argument.

I've seen minutes of fairly recent Community Board meetings where the BARLA chair has stated that member clubs were against the OR but that she would go back to ask them what they are.

I think a lot of well meaning people have been lead to believe the OR are a land grab by the RFL when in reality they have come about at least in part for the need to have one set of rules for the sport following criticism after the player tragedy a few years ago.

I'm not sure many of those who profess objection to the OR actually know what are in them. If BARLA released a document paraphrasing the objections and arguments against the rules then at least the rest of us would see what the issues are.

As for me my amateur RL roots go back to the start of BARLA. It was needed in 1973 and has had some glorious years. But time and the works moves on. Sadly BARLA doesn't seem to have and it's horrible to see it become centre of such divisive political goings on. They could end it immediately, join the table and add a reasoned voice to the debate, once they work out what their objections are?

I would agree that they have done good at times and probably saved the non-pro game back in 1973. I would agree that the RFL are imperfect and need more vision and to be more decisive. I would agree that coaching is not always best reflected by formal qualifications. I would agree that there are elements of the new plans that are being out forward that need work to avoid them spoiling competitions.

We don't need BARLA to do any of this, they just muddle the issues and take attention away from finding a mutually acceptable solution. Stop finding conspiracies, work together and think of the future of a sport rather than an outdated ideal or a small niche of the game.

#2858817 Where does the amateur game go from here?

Posted by nec on 02 January 2014 - 07:32 PM

Can you imagine coming on this board as an enthusiastic newbie to the sport, loved the RLWC and wanting to get involved at a grassroots level in a club somewhere. This forum was the first point of contact for many people in new RLC or merit league clubs. How it turned into a place where arguing against the BARLA good, RFL bad orthodoxy gets you accused of being a stooge or some other insult is beyond me. It is a deeply unpleasant place to discuss how to expand the playing base of my favourite sport now and it is the fault of a few zealots with axes to grind and apparently endless time to devote to doing so. If we cannot have a forum free of these rivalries/bitching perhaps it should be closed to prevent those newbies discovering it and losing their enthusiasm in the space of one thread.

#2857669 Where does the amateur game go from here?

Posted by nec on 30 December 2013 - 06:35 PM

Where the community game goes from here SHOULD be to accept that everyone has a right to play the game and narrow definitions such as amateur are outdated. It should be to pledge their complete allegiance to one governing body but seek to influence that body in order to produce the best outcomes for all sections of the game. It should be to offer solutions and suggestions not complaints and backbiting.

#2857168 celtic combined team

Posted by nec on 29 December 2013 - 01:20 AM

Only rugby league fans could even consider reverting to matches against made up opponents after that fantastic world cup. The lesson was that the public want internationals, between countries that exist!

#2856447 Operational Rules

Posted by nec on 25 December 2013 - 01:15 PM

Governing body takes appropriate steps to govern sport, Move along nothing to see here

#2829697 Rebel super league clubs now totalling nine

Posted by nec on 08 November 2013 - 05:45 PM

The proposal is lunacy, but could the chairmen please STFU until after the World Cup final

#2824241 01/11/13: World Cup Match 8 - France v New Zealand

Posted by nec on 01 November 2013 - 09:08 PM

Shock horror, a game of rugby league was won easily by the better side. France are not out of the conpetition yet, kiwis are world champs. Playing poorly does not mean not trying or not caring.