Then why use the word 'lie'? Well I'd call it dissembling, and I don't think Parksider does that. He is an honourable man, and to associate him with such behaviour is out of order.
Well thanks to Derwent's stern but wise words over my number of posts I have kept off the thread as much as I can. But I hope my name check above is enough to warrant post number 16,000 and blob.
I think I am guilty of being a Championship club fan and when my club hit the resources buffer in this new professional game, and became secondary to the local big club whom naturally attracted the areas RL resources and left us for near dead for good, I just accepted that for the good of the game.
So the only axe I have to grind is my belief that Superleague is the saviour of the game, and as such I support it wholeheartedly and wish the game would do that fully too. I remember starting a thread to challenge people over the value of Superleague and they all but two had to admit the game needed it otherwise it would be a small dying peculiarity played at a low professional level in pockets of post industrial M62 and Cumbrian coast.
Marauder and Tro didn't care and fair enough.
All the facts and figures I look up and add up support Superleague, if they were a lie I would not post them.
All the people I debate with (or debated with as I have used the ignore button again on advice) over Superleague whom disagree with me and accuse me of falsifying or twisting facts, and who take an automatic opposite view, support clubs whom Superleague has effectively damaged irreversibly.
Maybe 15,000 of my 16,000 posts are exchanged with a dozen other fine fellow posters going round in circles because if you support Leigh, Featherstone, Dewsbury, Keighley, Halifax, Sheffield, York, Rochdale or Oldham then of course the further advancement of Super league towards a closed shop of selected clubs with greater central control means the death of your own club certainly in terms of what it once was, certainly in terms of any future hope and ambition.
And I mean death because that was what it was coming to when the York's, Hunslet's, Bramley's, Oldhams, Keighley's Rochdale's, Blackpool's etc were facing when they hit the financial buffers first time around, and death as competitive independant clubs when they hit mass dual registration second time around.
Whilst this staunch old guard admirably argues the future is the past, because they HAVE TO, whilst they deny plain facts because they don't suit the narrative they NEED, and whilst the RFL/SLE actually encourage this with their failure to bite the bullet on Superleague and look to emulate the Australian success with the game (cue a myriad of championship fan posts as to how that was neither success nor would be suitable over here in England) then these threads will go on and on until us lot die out with our clubs.
But believe me L'Ange, if I could find an argument to justify giving the Championship clubs half the SKY money and four up four down across two 16 team leagues I'd darn well find it. But to my own sadness I cannot.
But I move on because it;s the game and not my club that gives me pleasure. It is an absolute fact that only Elite Rugby league clubs attract big crowds, attract kids to play that become stars, and interest the big TV companies and sponsors.
Sadly nobody can present counter facts and figures but just jeer "twister" (all in good spirit in the end)
I wish the facts didn't tell me that Super league is the future and that the strength of the game was in it's "communities" instead but it isn't, and some of our oldest RL communities have few fans and few people playing yet the over riding outrageous nonsense is always that if "conditions were right" then once again we can get Keighley Dewsbury and Featherstone back playing finals.
The good old days are over. I like what's replaced them better maybe that's my cardinal sin.
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