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Posted by burnleywelsh on 22 May 2015 - 07:40 AM
Posted by burnleywelsh on 09 May 2015 - 11:50 PM
Net result was still the same whether it was written down as an official policy or not, although I am not comparing this to the situation in UAE that seemed to start as an argument about branding and has now escalated way beyond that.
Rugby League clubs were giving the opportunity for talented rugby players to profit from their skills. If the RFL had desired they could have devastated the union game in Wales and with a knock on effect ( excuse the pun ), the whole of the home nations union international scene. I know personally international ru players that trialled with RL clubs that didn't sign for one reason or another. If these 'trialists' had been exposed by RL the Welsh international set up would have collapsed. RL had it in their power to disrupt RU. They didn't. I've been on the receiving end of RU's attempts, as a governing body, to stop me playing my chosen sport where and when I want. There's only one villain in this story.
Posted by burnleywelsh on 19 March 2015 - 07:41 PM
We're talking about Hardaker because this is currently in the news and this is the subject of the thread.
If it was about Gareth Hock...
I think what Hindle means is (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that Hardaker is a role model because of his status as an international player and Rhinos first teamer, while the other lad involved is not being talked about.
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 10 October 2014 - 04:16 PM
One reason that Northern Union rugby didn't take off immediately in Wales is that the English Rugby Football Union turned a blind eye to Welsh clubs paying their players (an act known as shamateurism) otherwise they knew that rugby union would be destroyed in working class Wales, which would put a huge dent in the international game. At the time, the Welsh didn't care which organisation they played under because both games had the same rules, but it was obviously far easier to carry on playing against Welsh clubs and to pay their players.
Had the RFU not turned a blind eye then it is likely that Wales would have turned to Northern Union and had the RFU lost rugby in South Wales, and the south west of England, which had close links with the game in Wales, they would have been left controlling a rump primarily based around London.
A key incident was the Arthur Gould affair in 1897. The Welsh rugby international had a testimonial awarded to him in the previous year and was awarded the deeds to his house (but no actual money). The RFU declared Gould a professional and then banned all clubs and players from playing against him. Because of this, in February 1897 the Welsh Rugby Union withdrew from the Rugby Union International Board and was ready to join up with the Northern Union. But by August a compromise was reached as the RFU realised that their control of rugby was at stake. They continued to ignore the payments issue until top player Dai Jones publicly walked out on Aberdare to rejoin his native Treherbert because he wasn‟t getting enough money. Half of the Aberdare committee were banned and formed the Merthyr and later Aberdare Northern Union clubs.
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 02 August 2014 - 08:40 AM
"Cumbria" is really the same word as "Cambria" the Romanised form of "Cymru".
If you knew any of the history of Scotland and Cumberland ( now part of Cumbria), you would know Cumberland, and therefore Workington, was actually part of Scotland at the time of the Domesday Book 1086.
Workington Town will probably have 4 players in the Scotland squad.
Brilliant, home game for both teams
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 10 June 2014 - 08:45 AM
The "taking of 10" is a local rule usually used where if they kick for touch they will lose the ball in gardens etc
We were always advised that if taking 10 it should be done in a controlled manner I.e. Ball to ref who advanced the 10 metres and got the line set etc but this isn't in any laws or rules more a case of common sense
Hope this helps
Thanks, "common sense" being the key !!
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 21 February 2014 - 01:16 AM
Rugby League does not exist in Scotland....End Of
You seem to deny the existence of any RL anywhere other than parts of Lancs, Yorks, Cumbria & Cheshire.
This must be a figment of all those hardworking pioneers imaginations then.
The 2014 season will see two divisions of 4 teams as well as a National Cup compitition.
National League 1:
Aberdeen Warriors 2
Must be part of the same fairy tale as Welsh RL I suppose.
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 15 February 2014 - 05:53 PM
I'd seriously like to know how we're being pampered. We're having no more money than anyone else, far less help due to location and everyone working at the club is doing so alongside other jobs, and therefore busting a gut 12 hours a day, 7 days a week near enough on all of their tasks in life. Not easy, especially as we didn't have a club working in October and November so we're doing four months work in the space of two months. Tell you what, let's just retreat to the north and it can be a parochial game where media and sponsors don't give a monkeys.
You have to face facts CC, there are 'so called supporters' of Rugby League who can't stand the thought of the game being played and enjoyed by people outside 'the heartlands'. In fact, as I've found out, there are huge areas of 'The North' that are Rugby League wastelands. It's not a northern game, it's a game that's played in parts of the north and Wales, The Home Counties, London, The Midlands etc. But, according to some, anyone who gets any, some, very little assistance from whatever quarter is 'being pampered'. Let me tell you, from experience, it is a hell of lot easier being involved in RL in 'The Heartlands' than it is outside this mythical land.
Posted by burnleywelsh on 14 February 2014 - 12:07 AM
We have pampered to South Wales for too Long....in it a Union Land like Widnes is a league land...
We must put a stop to this !! People with funny accents wanting to play Rugby League !! Down with this sort of thing !! Let's put an end to this nonsense. Only those within spitting distance of the M62 should be allowed !!
What a muppet !
Posted by burnleywelsh on 03 November 2013 - 01:28 AM
Why not ?
Obviously the Irish team represents the island of Ireland so the Tricolour won't do as it is not the flag of Northern Ireland. The ancient provinces of Ireland are Munster, Connaught, Leinster and Ulster. The ancient province of Ulster includes Northern Ireland and parts of the Republic, so using the combined crests of the provinces is the ideal 'banner' for the Irish RL team.
What's your issue with that?
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 08 October 2013 - 07:00 PM
Your point is ???
Name First national team represented Second national team represented
John Allan Scotland South Africa
Graham Bachop New Zealand Japan
Steven Bachop New Zealand Samoa
Abdelatif Benazzi Morocco France
Frano Botica New Zealand Croatia
Frank Bunce Samoa New Zealand
Daniel Carroll Australia USA
Des Connor Australia New Zealand
Matthew Cooper New Zealand Croatia
Diego Dominguez Argentina Italy
Jack Gage Ireland South Africa
Julian Gardner Australia Italy
Adrian Garvey Zimbabwe South Africa
Bill Hardcastle New Zealand Australia
Barry Holmes England Argentina
Shane Howarth New Zealand Wales
Alama Ieremia Samoa New Zealand
Evan Jessep New Zealand Australia
Michael Jones Samoa New Zealand
Jamie Joseph New Zealand Japan
Pat Lam Samoa New Zealand
James Marsh Scotland England
Frank Mellish England South Africa
Patricio Noriega Australia Argentina
Matthew Pini Australia Italy
Tom Richards Australia British Lions
Topo Rodriguez Argentina. Australia
Jamie Salmon New Zealand England
John Schuster Samoa New Zealand
Brian Smith Australia Ireland
Eddie Stapleton Australia New Zealand
Owen Stephens New Zealand Australia
Jan Christian Stewart Canada South Africa
Tiaan Strauss South Africa Australia
Ofisa Tonu'u Samoa New Zealand
Va'aiga Tuigamala New Zealand Samoa
Joeli Vidiri Fiji New Zealand
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 26 September 2013 - 08:11 AM
Somebody has an Italian grandparent, but his Parents are Australian born and speak only English. He himself is Australian and speak only English and has never once been to Italy How are they Italian?.
I don't no what your family background is, for the sake of this argument I'm presuming it's English (correct me if I'm wrong). If you move to say, France. You bring up your kids having pride in their English heritage (I doubt that you would stop speaking your mother tongue as you have alluded to in your post), English culture is celebrated in your home at every opportunity. This is passed on to the grandchildren. At what point does your family cease to be English or have pride in their English family? If they were ever given the opportunity to represent England, do they turn round and say "sorry mate, I'm French". Just because you move to a different country doesn't automatically mean you immediately cut all ties culturally or emotionally with your roots. I'm speaking from experience here. My kids born and bred in England 'feel' Welsh. They might or might not pass that emotional attachment to their kids. But according to some posters on here, they should be denied the opportunity to represent Wales because they don't have a Welsh accent and they are not Welsh enough!
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Posted by burnleywelsh on 24 September 2013 - 05:25 PM
Well they not be Italian as such but at least (for the most part) have Italian sounding names.
While I respect others opinions on the eligibility rules for international sport, all of these guys are eligible to represent Italy. As far as not being 'Italian as such', how long does your family have to be resident elsewhere e.g. Leaving Italy to live in England or Oz to not be or feel Italian? As far as 'Italian sounding names', they are not 'sounding', they are Italian.
There's a couple of lads of Italian heritage playing in our neck of the woods, they would snap your hand off to represent Italy, and try telling them they are not Italian .
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