But we've gone into this year with 31 players, far more than a first team squad needs (about 24 is the average).
We played the first game and lost one forward injured. So next up would be Cording, Nicholson, Walmsley, Ormonroyd, or Cooper. Perhaps Ive missed an injury to Mason Tonks? Of course we've two aussies who've not arrived and Carvell is apparently unfit. But that's still Wood, Baldy, James and Bossey in your front row, and Spears Locky Foster back row.
But lets' not pretend we need these guys. Both have quality pedigree but I doubt very much they will be surplus to requiremenst at Belle Vue in the way Trout and Skywalker were. So essentially just a game or two.
If we really think we can't beat Donny without these lads, then we need to trim all those players out of the squad because they will never get a game.
Just causes disruption precisely when our new look squad needs time to gel.
Still, blokes who know more about RL than me have made the call. I just don't get it myself.
Hi LIH, I know your father didn't play first team rugby for Featherstone Rovers so my information is very limited. LEs Tonks signed for Featherstone Rovers from the juniors in the summer of 1961 aged 18, so they may have played together in a junior amateur international.
This thread about Chris and the one currently running about Mel Mason got me thinking about the half-backs that played for Rovers in the late 60's/early 70's:
At stand off I can remember Brian Wrigglesworth, Mick Smith, Dave Kellett, Chris Harding, Mel Mason, John Newlove.
At scrum half Carl Dooler, Alan Watts, Steve Nash, Allan Agar, Terry Hudson, Peter Jameson, Barry Evans, Colin Wood, Peter Banner, Roly Holden, Phil Butler.
I might have forgot one or two from that period but there seems to be a gaping hole in my memory regarding the mid-sixties. Who played stand off in the period between Ivor Lingard leaving for Paramatta and Mick Smith coming along? I know Wriggy was a stand off at Bramley but I think he played mainly at centre for Rovers before moving to full back?
Ha! A right question that Steve. Ivor left in January 1964. Mick Smith's firts game was October 64. Look at this list of every game between the two:
Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Peter Bell Peter Bell Peter Bell Peter Bell Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Jim Hunt Keith Cotton Keith Cotton Keith Cotton Keith Cotton Carl Dooler Carl Dooler Joe Mullaney Jim Hunt Carl Dooler Vic Rawes Ken Greatorex Colin Bates Colin Bates Colin Bates Joe Mullaney Joe Mullaney Colin Bates Colin Bates Peter Bell Colin Bates
Hi Ian. Your dad was a stand-off and signed for Featherstone (I assume from local amatuer rugby) in the late 60s and made his first team debut on 3rd of January 1970 as a sub at home to Bramley and we won 22-9. His full debut came two weeks later on 17th January 1970, but as a centre. We were at home to Keighley that day and won 41-5. Your dad's wingman was a young lad called John Newlove and Newwy scored two tries so your dad must have done ok! Another player who made his debut that day was a lad from Fryston called Harold Box.
Chris Harding played 12 games that season, and scored one try at home to Doncaster in April.
The following season 1970/1 he played 22 games at stand-off, and his halfback partner was Tex Hudson (Nash was injured). That yera he scored two tries, home to Hull and away to Bradford.
The following year he played the first five games at the start of the season, and kicked one goal against Swinton, but that was the last he played. I'd have to look it up, but it may well be he got an injury in his last match at home to Wakefield in august 1971 and that ended his career at Fev.
He played a total of 39 games (4 as sub) scored 3 tries and kicked 1 goal for 11 points.
He was stand-off for Fev in the 1970 Yorkshire Cup final which we lost to Leeds.
As explained above, I did have a stopwatch on it. Clicked on at 00:00 when the second half resumed. It had reached 38 minutes when the final hooter blew. Sorry, but I just don't buy suggestions that we had a 40-minute second half that day at Thrum Hall! Everyone around us (my dad and I) sensed it, too. Anyone attending rugby league fairly frequently has a good idea what a half feels like - with or without a stopwatch. As someone who grew up near Halifax, I can't say I felt ticked off about being short changed. If I remember correctly, the Evening Courier - Calderdale's paid for newspaper - ran a piece casting doubt on the length of the second half.
I think you're misunderstanding what Im saying. The second half may have lasted 35, 40 or 45 minutes. I didn't time it. If those keeping a stopwatch on things clocked 38 minutes when the hooter went, then so it was. My beef is with the idea that this was done intentionally to benefit both clubs. It certainly calmed Halifax's nerves as they only needed a point. Rovers timekeeper, as I said, would have no real reason to collude in an early finish.
BTW, I seriously question anybody's ability to 'judge' in their head the difference between 38 or 40 minutes without looking at their watch and merely 'sensing' it.