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Evil Homer

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  1. That... is conference policy. Pursue a Labour version of Brexit, attempt to force a general election if necessary and if all else fails then back a second referendum to prevent a damaging Tory Brexit. Literally conference policy to a tee.
  2. Nope, going into tonight she had 314 seats plus 10 from the DUP, giving 324. This is actually two short of an outright parliamentary majority of 326, but because the 7 Sinn Fein MPs don't take up their seats it means the number required for an effective majority is actually slightly lower at 322. Following Boles resignation she's now at 323 including the DUP, so if another two Tory MPs were to resign she would lose her majority even with the DUP, which presumably would trigger an election, I'm not sure of the constitutional situation regarding that, I guess it would depend if she could convince individual independent MPs to continue to prop the government up.
  3. That is... what it says in the letter. Why you characterize their actions as 'squirming and evading' is anyone's guess, what do you think they should've done differently?
  4. In what way does that go against conference policy? Or is unreasonable in any way?
  5. What improvements do you think we'll be able to get on the current deal?
  6. Uh, we've been trying to do that for the past two years and it hasn't really gone well. Any specific objections to the deal we currently have?
  7. What is your definition? Complete isolation from the rest of the world? A North Korea-type state? Even North Korea has trade deals.
  8. No, remain is advocating for the current position. Further developments will occur as and when they occur. I don't see any merit at all to having some sort of debate, let alone a vote on hypothetical future scenarios.
  9. Imagine how far down the rabbit hole you must be to start blaming 'remoaners' for not doing something that they have said since day one they don't want to do and would not be able to do.
  10. Or you could just vote based on which party has the most policies you agree with in their manifesto, rather than some vague concept of ideology.
  11. As pointed out, it was highlighted, maybe not to the extent it should've been but it was there. It was dismissed as scaremongering by the leave campaign along with every other argument that was put forward about why this wasn't going to work. And I'm certainly not trying to claim some credit or the need to be an 'expert', if the UK has a different customs and immigration arrangement to the EU and Ireland is part of the EU then it stands to reason there has to be some sort of physical border between the UK and Ireland where these differences can be enforced, it's not exactly rocket science to figure that out. As for the rest, genuinely interested as to what you consider 'no deal' to mean and the benefits it will have in your opinion.
  12. They should need to answer. If people are advocating for something then they should have some basic understanding of what they're talking about and what it is they're advocating for. Screaming "do something" without knowing what that thing is or how to do it isn't acceptable political discourse and should be ignored.
  13. Yes but it isn't something that was unforeseeable or an issue that has just cropped up overnight, I knew this would be a problem before the referendum and do remember it being pointed out, along with numerous other things such as the fact that we wouldn't be able to secure a satisfactory trade deal because it would be impossible to get a better one than we already had. All of this was idiotically dismissed as 'project fear' by the leave campaign without any actual explanation of how they were going to do any of it. I'm not blaming you for any of this BTW since you at least seem reasonable enough to admit that you weren't sure about what exactly you were voting for. The more pressing issue is that since you admit to not being fully educated on this subject when you voted (nothing wrong with that BTW, this isn't your job and there's no reason for the general public to know about this stuff), do you still think the 2016 referendum should be considered a legit, binding exercise?
  14. Did you not consider this might be an issue before you voted? Do you not think that leaving might not be such a good idea given there appear to be no obvious answers to these problems?
  15. I've found that trying to engage in any sort of pragmatic discussion with Leavers about the realities and practicalities of Brexit generally results in silence on their part. Which is probably why there is a lack of media coverage of this sort, they can't broadcast or write headlines about people saying nothing.
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