Methven Hornet

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  1. Scottish Football= a question

    Quite an interesting thread, especially as you seem to have gotten away with the Old Firm nomenclature. You may not have been so lucky with a predominantly west of Scotland forum Sadly, the history of Scottish football is all about Old Firm dominance, with the odd break being the exception that proves the rule. Out of 120 completed seasons, Celtic and Rangers have won the title 101.5 times (the first one was shared between Dumbarton and Rangers). In 1904, Third Lanark won the title, yet Scottish football would have to wait until 1932 before another non-OF club, Motherwell, became champions. That is 28 years (Scottish League continued through the WW1 years) as opposed to the current run of 32. The only real periods when others could get a look-in were the early years, before they'd established their dominance, the post-WWII period and the eighties. The massive increase in crowds for all spectator sport after the war enabled the 'powers from the east' - Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen - to mount a real challenge in the forties and fifties. Then, in the eighties, the rise of the New Firm - Aberdeen and Dundee United - together with the relative decline of the big two, meant things became interesting for a while. With Aberdeen it wasn't so much the oil wealth as the Pittodrie being awash with Alex Ferguson - and some really decent players, of course. Dundee United had Jim McLean, a coach who would develop young players and then sign them on extended contracts to keep them at the club. When the players' union called this out as being unfair on young players, the decline set in. What happened then was that the 'second tier' of Scottish clubs, those big enough to challenge given the right conditions, exhausted themselves financially trying to keep up. Hearts, Hibs, Motherwell, Dundee United have all had their traumas, and even Aberdeen have taken years to sort out their debts. And, of course, the club that led the financial suicide charge in the first place became the biggest casualty of them all.
  2. 'World Rugby' (sic) against RLIF bid for recognition?

    WTF's wrong with Orienteering being a member of an international sports federation? Or Korfball for that matter?
  3. "Perth should be in Super League"

    "Perth should be in Super League" Couldn't agree more. Put them in a blue and white kit, play at McDiarmid Park, call them Perth Saints and I'll be first in line for a season ticket
  4. Yes, absolutely, use the shirt and the Lions name - they both belong to English rugby league anyway. If I could make one suggestion, why not use navy blue as other England teams do (soccer, ru, cricket)?
  5. Scotland, maybe?

    It's not Aberdeen specifically. At present this is just one guy sticking his hand up and saying he will invest £25,000 a year IF others will also invest AND if someone else will organise and lead the thing. Aberdeen and the borders are just speculation, and the location would depend on who else made up the consortium.
  6. Scotland, maybe?

    There are a couple of soccer grounds in the Borders too: Gala Fairydean and Hawick Royal Albert. Dundee is a strange one. Apart from the two soccer stadiums there is nothing suitable. The university has playing facilities only, nothing for spectators. The athletics stadium is just a track. The rugby club, Dundee HSFP, has a small stand but is otherwise an open playing field. And, as its name suggests, it is a traditional RU club that probably wouldn't welcome rugby league. And the non-league soccer clubs... Junior football in Scotland does have some wonderful grounds, but not in Dundee. Some have covered standing, some could be described as decrepit, and then there's Lochee Harp.
  7. Scotland, maybe?

    And it wouldn't just be £25k. He is asking to be part of a consortium, members of which would also contribute. He doesn't want to lead the thing. It is a reasonable proposal and could, possibly, be achievable.
  8. Scotland, maybe?

    I'm a little bit reluctant to share this, or to get too excited about it, but at least someone is enthusiastic enough to put their money where there mouth is. As for location, that's a tough one. Aberdeen seems to be where the action is at present but it is a long, long way from the heartlands, never mind the expansion areas of League One. The Borders is nearer but the fear would be that it would become just an outpost of the Cumbrian game. The temptation to utilise playing resources from the west coast would be too much when the going got tough, I fear. The plus side is that there are numerous venues in the area that would be ideal for League One type crowds. We'll see...
  9. Ireland Cricket - Test Status

    Stormont looks a decent enough venue when it's all dressed up for an event. 7,000 capacity isn't to be sniffed at. And there's Malahide and Clontarf in Dublin.
  10. Ireland Cricket - Test Status

    I thought it was on the cards for Ireland and Afghanistan.
  11. Conference League South 2016- Teams Confirmed

    Didnt north-east clubs play in the York and District, as opposed to the Yorkshire?
  12. What now for Scotland RL?

    Hope the mods don't mind me going off on a slight tangent, but I think you'd be surprised. The name Caledonia Reds is still used for the age-grade district rep sides at u20, u18, u16 levels (ie what used to be North and Midlands District). And a Caledonia Reds senior district side has been revived and have played a few games, most recently against the South in November. This is, of course, from the club game below professional level. As for the professional ranks, the SRU has said that they want a third franchise and that this would most likely be in the Caledonia district. An amusing incident occurred on the lunchtime news on Radio Scotland a while back. The ex Scotland international, John Beattie, now a news presenter, was interviewing the head of Aberdeen Asset Management about an economic issue. At the end he broached the topic of rugby knowing the guy was an ex player. He then 'mugged' the guy by asking would his firm back a revived franchise, perhaps based in Aberdeen. Caught off-guard, he responded enthusiastically and this became the top sports story of the week in Scotland! That was a couple of years ago and there have been no concrete developments, but there was a genuine anger in the north and Midlands when their side was merged with Glasgow. Watch this space.
  13. Just been to WH Smiths in Perth and it wasn't on the shelves. I didn't ask as I didn't realise they might be keeping them back. To be fair that is the first time I haven't been able to buy a copy there - must be the interest from the 4 Nations and/or having a Scottish player on the front cover that has led to it selling out Will download.
  14. Your flavour of Brexit

    As raw as my steak on the night the power supply failed!!!
  15. Great Britain XIII

    Were they any good?