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Methven Hornet

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  1. The irony of your statement being that Nicola Sturgeon is one of the least nationalist politicians of British politics, and leader of one of its least nationalist parties.
  2. No, in the case of ukip's Welsh Assembly members, people voted for the party not the individual. All were elected under the list part of what is called the Additional Member System. Voters choose a party not an individual, and if the party is successful then elected members are chosen from the party candidate list.
  3. We get this all the time in Scotland but I think most people are wise to it. Even James Callaghan accepted that it was bitter infighting withing the Labour movement that undermined his government and brought it down. Anyway, after apparently stabilising their vote in 2017, Labour in Scotland seem to be in free-fall once again. Several recent polls have suggested this and a council by-election last night in a former solid Labour area saw an even further swing from Labour to SNP.
  4. 10 DUP isn't it? God help us (and Ulster!) if they've doubled in numbers.
  5. What really concerns me about this whole process, especially after listening to the reasoning of those who want to leave, is that many people have made their decision based upon what they imagine or fear the EU to be, rather than what it actually is. When you see things like EUSSR, being ruled by Brussels, being ruled by Germany, you have to wonder how people survive without being able to discern real information from obviously fake guff. No wonder so many scams are successful. Yesterday I had to explain to someone on social media that the link he had posted regarding the Lisbon Treaty contained virtually nothing that was factual. To think that the UK's strategic direction, even it's very existence, may have been based upon myth, outright deception and amateurish memes on Facebook.
  6. And we often hear southern states particularly talking about states' rights, bemoaning the power and authority the Federal government has. The member states of the EU have those powers over a relatively weak European centre, they are very unlikely to give them up.
  7. The United States of Europe is one of the favourite canards of the anti-EU movement. It is one strand of thinking regarding the development of the EU, certainly not a dominant one and one that has repeatedly knocked back.
  8. Yes, it is. Smaller nations exerting their independence, but coming together with other, similarly minded, nations to tackle issues that require a coordinated response.
  9. So you've changed that from ”its trajectory over time is to become a major independent state" to asserting that the Lisbon Treaty effectively created a state with its own government, powers and government ministers. And you've linked to a summary of the treaty provisions that indicate nothing of the sort. Where does sovereignty, de jure as well as de facto, lie? With the sovereign, independent member states. The EU exercises authority over areas that are defined in its founding treaties, effectively enjoying pooled sovereignty in those areas. Who pools that authority, who decides what those areas will be, and who ultimately retains that sovereignty? The sovereign, independent member states. Who passes EU legislation, legislation restricted to those areas of competence by the founding treaties? The European Council, made up of representatives of the governments of the sovereign, independent member states, and the European Parliament, representing the peoples of the EU. Who will decide the future direction and development of the EU? The sovereign, independent member states through agreeing treaties. Are any of those states considering giving up their sovereign, independent status? None that I am aware of - you could, perhaps enlighten me. "If you can read through those provisions and explain how they don't effectively create a state with its own government, powers and government ministers then you're a smarter person than I am." I'm not sure that I can use a list of provisions of the Lisbon Treaty, which doesn't set out to create an effective state, to prove that the EU is not a state. As you are the one claiming that it does could you perhaps explain how those provisions do make the EU a sovereign, independent state?
  10. That's what I've discovered about so many people who are passionately, even obsessively, anti-EU is that they basically haven't a clue what it is or how it works.
  11. That's the one. Why spend ages searching for it when you can just ask on here? ?
  12. No, it really isnt, and its future development is entirely in the hands of its member states.
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