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  1. When we have 92 teams capable of being in Super League we can have that, currently we don't. London going up replacing Wakefield despite being so bad is all the vindication the new system needs.
  2. Its not even 40 years since they got rid of election to the Football League. They are rich enough across the board to have more clubs in their acceptable minimum standards.
  3. The British Psyche is then based on what Harry? Those sports you all highlighted don't support what you are saying? People do like P/R, but they like it in terms they accept like "this is the agreed standard".
  4. Association football ran an elected league system for decades till it grew so financially and numerically massive it could afford standards based P/R across 11 tiers of ever increasing numbers. It doesn't have its equivalents of Hunslet or Swinton anywhere near its equivalents of Southampton or Hull City. Cricket has quite literally a major counties only league. The second division being introduced to split the number of red ball matches being played by those special 18 counties who otherwise all compete on the same level. Union only went pro and had "proper" leagues in the relatively recent past. Even then, in England it is heading to a closed top/top 2 tiers - In Wales, Scotland and Ireland it already is like that. Rugby League is the prime example of a competition set up specifically for one type of club, "professionals"! We've never had a "pyramid" because we've always had a clear distinction between the amateur and "professional" clubs. For the past 25 years, if not the past 35 years, the sport has grappled with whether there should be a distinction between the fully professional and semi professional levels too.
  5. Its a difficult tension at Leeds. Hetherington had it good for a long time by getting a core of quality players to accept less money to be at a successful team. Leeds still spent well and to the limit, but they maxxed out the value of that spend. Since that time GH has been willing to spend. The 2019 intake of Hurrell, Lolohea and Merrin on reportedly marquee wages stands out. As does the transfer fees paid for Croft and Ackers. However none of these big spends have worked particularly well or had an immediate impact. Perhaps spending is just in the wrong place? And the value for money Leeds used to get isn't close anymore?
  6. Is it Smith or Pearson Hoy's father is referring to in his comments?
  7. In fairness, that last point is the purpose of a trial run...
  8. Its been contested by a decent number in that time too though.
  9. Its definitely an odd narrative really isn't it!
  10. That is the tagline I've been seeing for the Cup Final ticket advertisements on my social media feeds. There's a very big push on the fact that we have had 7 different winners of the comp in the past 7 years. It hadn't even occurred to me that had been the case till I saw it. Add in that Salford (behind closed doors admittedly) and Huddersfield (at Spurs) have also made the final in that time too. Shows how wide open and not very predictable the cup can be?
  11. People have some really rose tinted glasses on when talking about the middle 8s (sorry the qualifiers). There were a few, a handful tbh, really good games each year, but they were bloated to 28 games plus the million pound game. Yes Salford vs KR in 2016 was amazing, but does anyone recall the classic that was Fev vs Leeds finishing 6-62, or Hull KR vs Batley in the same round finishing 58-18. Perhaps the all championship clashes might have been closer but hang on London beat Batley 76-16... Those are results from just 2 rounds that year - Batley would go on to average fewer than 16 points a game in the 8s that year and Fev fewer than 14, both with points differences of worse than -205. In 2015 just 5 out of 28 games finished with a score difference of 8 points or below. 16 (or 57%) of matches finished with a difference of 20 or more. 2017 saw some real close classics but alongside them were 0-68, 58-10, 52-24 and 40-6 for example 2018 likewise had some close games, but also a fair number of blowouts too. From having an admittedly massive procrastinating side track looking at these, it seems that the Qualifiers were generally at least 4 teams (2 at the top and 2 at the bottom) too large. These sides were either clearly too good or too bad for the rest.
  12. I feel like you've just made a point in support of what I'd said? Panic buys (usually from Australia) and short termism helps no-one.
  13. I think 2 teams in a drop would be the absolute max for a 12 team league.
  14. Because we can't afford the vulnerability and short termism to severely impact a third or half of the top flight. The sport isn't big enough. There is a massive difference in impact between winning the league vs relegation.
  15. I can see that, I think there is space for inter divisional competitions. Equally I'm surprised there was no element of play offs explored following the end of the 8s. Perhaps a 16 team Challenge cup, group stages with 4 championships qualifiers is where the opportunity may lie.
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