The Art of Hand and Foot

What was the crowd?

Due to delayed travel, the match is kicking off later, 1 report says 8 the other 9 our time.

Absolutely no reason why a Roughyed can't be a Bear. On an aside, what's happened to Roary? Don't know if he's been sidelined or whether I've just not noticed him?

Youre right. My first recollection of the term was Eddie Waring on TV saying 'aa and we are at aa a Waterrrrsheddings the home of Oldham a aa Rrrroughyeds'. It became a much bigger thing during the superleague Bears years. Remember the T Shirt with the bear on it and Roughyeds emblazoned across the top?

The thing is to understand what a 'Brand' is. To paraphrase Rod Stewart a brand is in your heart it's in your soul. Harley Davidson is not just a mode of transport. It has an intangible meaning to its users. Roughyeds is us, it's our history, it's Oldham RFL. It's 1876 and 1895, it's Joseph Platt, it's 1957. It's more than a cuddly toy. Although any cuddly toy could be sold as representing what 'Roughyed ' means to us.

Aaaaagh!!!! Roughyeds is a great name for a rugby team. It's unique, there are more panthers, Warriors, bulls, saints, Rovers, Hornets and crusaders than you can throw a stick at. There's only one Roughyeds. Although it has a history that is quite dull and laborious, a Roughyed is whatever you want it to be. A bear, a lion, anything. But please not that ginger snap crackle and pop mascot from years ago. Anyone who says you can't market a Roughyed needs to hand branding to someone who does.

The names mentioned are Toulouse, likely, Bradford, possible, then York. So we have to do really well second half of the season.

Widnes currently beating Toulouse 18-4 with Lawton scoring 2 tries!!!!

3,000 capacity.

Nope, not the reason we lost. We lost because TO were the better team. However, to say that the ref had a good game is patently untrue.

TO Ripping the ball, TO knocking on , not given, knock on given against Oldham and the ball went 2 yards backwards. and the game changer that even you must be embarrassed about, when Oldham where on the ascendancy and were forced to drop out when it was obvious to all, and confirmed on the replay, that Eloi hadn't touched the ball.

Had the video on my iPad and audio from george on my phone. Took me ages to get it synchronised. Then Mrs art of Hand and Foot caught the WiFi hub and it turned off. Spent the rest of the game with george either a second or two in front or a second or two behind . Anyway thought we were on the ascendancy until that decision to award a drop out. Hope he has the decency to apologise after he's shown it.

You know what's going to happen if they move it away from Wembley dont you? Yep, that's right Oldham will get to the final. I think someone needs pee in the in goals to lift the curse!!!

For Oldham it has to be frank Foster. In 71 we had only won 6 out of 21. Frank was signed and we won 12 of the next 13. Completely transforming that season. In the modern era I think the best signing has to be josh charnley. But dont tell anyone yet..

Rhymes with Mac Pews !?

The thing is he is experienced, still has a lot to give especially at our level and will be an inspiration and will put bums on seats.

The thing to remember about the relationship between money and success is that was it ever thus!? Back in the day the investors were local butchers, bakers and businessmen. So no different now!

A great mention on bbc as Warrington take the lead at Wembley . Sneyd grubber picked up by Thewlis to score. The commentator says "a try made in Oldham, that geat rugby league town".

Could have something to do with him being charged by the RFL. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14GqHZExcVh/

ET back in the squad. Been a while.

The co-commentator was Elijah Taylor , Oldham's loose forward. Out injured.

Oh no! I was working today , otherwise me and my lad would've been there!!!!

Same.

I could never understand why there is animosity between the two codes within a town. As a yeds supporter I follow the latics, not city, not united but Oldham athletic. I'm an Oldhamer. I've heard latics fans dissing the yeds, blaming them for all sorts of woes, churning up the pitch being the main one. I've heard yed fans dissing the latics. Again blaming them for the yeds having to play out of town etc. Now, however, things are changing thanks to Frank Rothwell and Bill Quinn/Mike Ford. They've all got Oldham at heart. That new relationship is starting to rub off on the fans. Hopefully we can all all work together to put both teams back up the respective pyramids. Come on Oldham!

Oldham Football Club, rugby, founded 1876, Pine Villa, Oldham Athletic, founded 1895. Both clubs founding members of Super League and Premier League respectively. Both the Yeds and Latics have had hard times in recent years. But seem to be having a revival. However, the Yeds have lost a generation of support, whereas the Latics have managed to maintain a large core of support. Mainly due to being able to remain in town at their spiritual home, Boundary Park. Average attendances for the Yeds are circa 2,000+ whereas for the Latics it is 7,000+. For a 5th tier football club that is phenomenal. This past weekend, the Yeds v Fev was 2,850, Latics v Halifax Town over 10,000. Just wish we could get more for the Roughyeds.