redjonn

I guess despite the various suggestions is that the fundamental problem is the lack of a strong marketing organisation within RFL/SL, recognition of the costs of employing such expertise and hence the non investment in such. Yep we may not have the funds one may say but recognition of need and prioritising of such by each club taking less central funding to enable investment for long term benefit. Again that is where a good CEO of the organisation comes in as the initial building block. We have IMG involved now and we hope that will make up with the lack own good marketing organisation but we still have the underlying fundamentals of RFL leadership. I was in a highly successful business which would be described in business speak as Marketing Led and where the highest salaries were and the best of talent hence I may be somewhat biased in my views.

I enjoyed watching and thought the guest was quite insightful. I had/have no underlying bias and thought the guest was fully aware of the state of the game pre and post whatever period so don't get the comment above.

Whilst I can see that a new rule being introduced would initially cause some confusion and debate around decisions I am not so sure how dastardly a game would be affected once time has been allowed for the initial chaos. So I'm just wondering how badly affected some would think the game will be. Just that given anything above the shoulder is now normally deemed at least a penalty, and the first tackling is more often than not put around the arms with multiple others coming into an arm wrestle until refs calls hold - which sometimes seems an age, I am not sure how many tackles allowed today will be outlawed. Thus I wonder how much a game would be impacted.

i know the question is aimed at someone else... I went to the Huyton RL social club frequently, it was quite popular.

I agree with what you have said on this thread, but do wonder what sort of stadium event improvements would make that much difference. For me it starts with the buzz i have before getting anywhere near the game. The buzz of getting a ticket, the buzz of looking forward to the game all week, the buzz of travelling to the game... once at the stadium it would be the icing on the buzz cake. I mean when I'm to a RU international I have all those buzz aspects even though I know I probably won't think much of the game nor the stadium experience, especially as most of the game I'd be up and down off me seat to let people past as they go the bar and come back.

fair enough, it was just a thought over morning coffee... the cogs in t head don't really get movin till a few cups in

I don't know if a resurrection of the Roses would be a good idea. I wish it was viable but understand the issues/concerns raised and it not being worthwhile as many have explained. If the Roses was being used as a Robbie Burrows MND regular fund raising game would that have an impact on making it more viable and of interest.

I can't think of a sport I wouldn't watch, I'm always surprised how I can get hooked in to a game and hence appreciate the sport on TV. RU is improving as a spectator sport and will continue to evolve as they adapt the rules to improve its entertainment and reduce impact of set pieces. They know they need to change and the last world cup was a good watch and some games absolute belters. Football/soccer I find far more entertaining and generally more skilful nowadays from when I was a lad, bearing in mind the first game I went to was Liverpool in the 2nd division. Having been an avid Liverpool fan attending all games from 1959 until the late 80's. To me the sport has hugely improved in all aspects whether stadium and stadium facilities, the pitch they play on and the more skilful and less Souness or Hunter break a leg approach and plough fields some games played on back then.. The sport that most surprised me when I first watched live is Netball, surprising its energetic, fast flowing plus the agility of the players is outstanding. As I say their are many sports I will watch and highlights the huge competitiveness of the sporting landscape for our monies. Not least now we have access to global sporting theatre. I can even watch Kabaddi which again I've got hooked into watching games and surprised me the agility of the players. We may bemoan the level of RL here but when you consider all the other sports we can watch it ain't doing too badly in keeping just above the parapet.

Haven't taken as much notice as yourself but off the top of me head Widnes with a 8.60 surprises me that it's so low. Do you have any idea as to where they scored poorly... I always enjoyed the away games at Widnes when they were in SL. The stadium and facilities including seating and hospitality always seemed one of the better more up-to-date stadiums than some others. Least said about the ipitch.

do you get points for actually owning the ground, no matter the state of, that is whether first class facilities for the current era or appalling victorian equivalent era with a few modern technologies added despite the toilets... I guess it says something about RL Don't assume I don't want Cas in SL... it would be a loss

I never said that based on the stadium they should or should not be in SL... it was just an observation on the stadium... so why your idiotic response

yep that is true... and it is a top ranking club, good on Cas but it doesn't hide what the stadium really is... although as the scores dictate it doesn't matter one iota

whatever, its still a dump...

are the club who gets the top grade doing an open top tour of the city ...

on your point "filled with stars"... too be frank I don't know any of the Samoa squad and I wouldn't say England are full of stars. Of course depending upon definition of "stars". OK I don't watch any NRL and only attend games home and away of the SL club we support. So whilst not a NRL follower the world of RL needs to make me more aware of the stars and what I'm going to miss, maybe... then I may get off me backside to attend. So how a non RL follower and one with just a casual interest is going to be thinking gosh that team is full of stars...