
StandOffHalf
Coach-
Posts
5,460 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
2
Everything posted by StandOffHalf
-
Yes, it happens. I think it's perfectly understandable that players in front wouldn't rush in the last minutes. My only issue with the Horne incident is the use of the directive on not lifting potentially injured players. Horne was wrong to lift Ellis and should have been penalised, but Ellis clearly wasn't injured. Both players quite clearly were aware of how things were. Horne shouldn't have pulled him up, because Ellis then delayed playing the ball. It was silly from Horne.
-
The NRL Round 18 Thread
StandOffHalf replied to THE RED ROOSTER's topic in The Australian Rugby League Forum
Cows and Souths both chances for an upset IMO. -
NRL Tipping Competition Round 18 2025 In Progress
StandOffHalf replied to Graham's topic in The Australian Rugby League Forum
Hi there, Graham! Shock horror; I'm going with the Cows after their horrors to pip the Storm! Origin absentees hit that contest especially hard. BULLDOGS, RAIDERS, COWBOYS, EASTS, MANLY 182 points in total 0 away wins Manly by 1 to 12 points Good luck to everyone! -
Penalty against Horne then, and no ban? I don't think that would have been controversial.
-
Ashes Squad Predictions
StandOffHalf replied to hunsletgreenandgold's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Strong defence of Hadley from Willie Peters, in the wake of Wane saying he may not be able to ''hack it''. I think it was a disrespectful comment from the national coach. Hull KR coach hits back at Shaun Wane's rationale for Dean Hadley snub -
Ashes Squad Predictions
StandOffHalf replied to hunsletgreenandgold's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
I think the strengths to Hadley's game are his engine and commitment. I'm not sure I'd have him in the 17, but I don't think he'd let anyone down. I'd have him in the 24 ahead of Currie and Bateman. He's playing consistent football in a humming team, and has certainly done really well to be talked of as a possible selection. -
Ashes Squad Predictions
StandOffHalf replied to hunsletgreenandgold's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
I know Gannon is a great young talent, but I would have Hadley over him at this stage. The guy is a machine for KR, and one of the most under-appreciated players in the comp. -
Ashes Squad Predictions
StandOffHalf replied to hunsletgreenandgold's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Yeah, I think it's safe to assume that Connor wouldn't be sitting pretty if the points were up to Wane. Not sure it reflects well on the national coach that he's professing a lack of awareness on how points are awarded for one of the game's top awards. -
Ashes Squad Predictions
StandOffHalf replied to hunsletgreenandgold's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
I think Wane is correct to stress the below - as much as I disagree with the omission of Connor. “This is not the squad I am picking my 24-man squad from. If Alex Walmsley kills it for the rest of the year, if any player kills it and I can see them playing at Wembley and winning that Test match against Australia then they are in.” -
Agreed. His pull-up caused Ellis to play the ball slowly, almost as payback. As I said, I wouldn't have a problem with a penalty against the player pulling a non-injured opponent up.
-
I can see the argument for lifting a player to hurry things along being a penalty. It happens, but it shouldn't. I wouldn't be opposed to a penalty on the field against Horne. He and Ellis both were aware of what was happening in that end-game, and had their own approaches to the clock running out. I just think it's disingenuous to apply the directive about lifting a potentially injured player here. That's not what this was, and anyone watching can see that.
-
Well, my point is that that directive shouldn't really be applied. Both parties knew that Ellis wasn't injured.
-
The winding down the clock is actually after Horne has left him. Ellis takes his time to play the ball. I don't have any issue with what Ellis did. He was swung to ground and was weary at the end of the game. Horne pulled on his shirt to hurry him up. If you look closely, I think Ellis was moving his left leg to regain his feet at about the same time as the tug from Horne. To me, it's just a rugby incident, with one player glad the clock is running out and the other eager to save every second possible. Nothing malicious. In my view, there's no need to use the directive about lifting potentially injured players. Everyone knows that Ellis wasn't injured. He was glad the game was ending and wasn't in a rush.
-
For me, that's just play on, with a reminder post-match to Horne. Both players involved know it's nothing to do with the directive on not lifting potentially injured players. Players at the end of a match are weary as it is and, if in front in a tight game, will tend to go about things as slowly as possible. It's just a rugby incident that can happen in such a situation, with no danger or real malice.
-
Just so everyone can see the incident. Quite clearly not an issue of a potentially injured player. Purely winding down the clock.
-
This ''mandatory requirement'' with ''no discretion'' incentivises players to stay down/feign injury and rile a defender, in the hope that they will pull them up.
-
The Compliance Manager's question seemed rather disingenuous, given Horne's corroborated evidence about Ellis smirking. When asked how he knew that the opponent was not injured, LH said his laughter and smirk indicated he was not injured. The CM then asked about LH’s qualifications to assess injuries, LH responded by saying he knew the opponent and believed he wouldn’t be laughing if he was injured.
-
• Whether a player is in fact injured, and if so to what extent, is exclusively a matter for the assessment of the medical staff...' I didn't see any trainer or team doctor on the field. It was clear that he wasn't injured. He got up and played the ball, after wasting the time.
-
Is the next humiliation being booted from the bench? He hasn't been given a fair crack at all.
-
''I don’t want an injured player being touched and my players are smart enough to know when someone is hurt. They wouldn’t touch them. But he was laughing and joking with Horney winding the time down. Liam is not that type of player to pick him up if he’s hurt.'' Castleford Tigers make Liam Horne appeal call after 'bewildering' ban It was clear that Ellis wasn't hurt, so it seems wrong to apply that directive about lifting a potentially injured player.
-
Just common sense. It was obvious what the Wigan player was up to, and an understandable, if silly, reaction from Horne.
-
Wigan's letter in support of Horne should have been the end of it. A warning not to touch players would have sufficed. The letter confirmed that Ellis wasn't injured. He got up and played the ball, with no trainer on the field. He was basically time wasting/feigning and looking to draw a reaction. Ellis, if anything, should be the one charged, for his unsportsmanlike conduct.
-
The Horne ban seems way over the top.
-
England v Australia 2025 - coming to the UK!
StandOffHalf replied to Chris22's topic in The General Rugby League Forum
Hehe. Chuck the Roos in a facility.