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Martyn Sadler

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In Topic: Germanwings

Today, 01:45 PM

Who is getting MORE outraged about the stuff in the press? It is possible to view the crash and the guy whose actions caused it and the press reaction as two separate issues. 


The crash has had a double impact; initially it was the tragic loss of 150 lives in a plane crash. This was then compounded when it emerged that the cause was a pilot deliberately taking the plane down, a person who we all trust to safeguard lives not kill people on such a scale. I really can't find the words to describe my lack of comprehension of such an act. 

The media is now reporting that the co-pilot had suicidal inclinations when he received therapy some time ago, but that his employer never knew about that because of the confidential nature of the relationship between doctor and patient.


That is surely at the heart of the problem.


There are some jobs, as we have now seen, where an employee's mental state can have a disastrous impact on the way he does his job, putting many lives at risk.


As an employer myself I have no desire to know the details of my employees' medical records, because they are unlikely to impact greatly on the general public.


But an airline should surely be a category of employer that does have access to its employees' medical records. In this case the tragedy might have been avoided if Lufthansa had been in possession of the co-pilot's medical records and had been able to take action on them.

In Topic: Germanwings

27 March 2015 - 05:21 PM

You're right.  People need to find the monsters who spawned this creature and vent their anger on them as justice demands.

People don't need to, and ideally won't, but inevitably the people who have lost loved ones will feel very bitter and some of them will do foolish things.


You're very fortunate to be so reasonable, logical and with such a high degree of self control.

In Topic: Germanwings

27 March 2015 - 05:16 PM

Because it's coming to light that he had mental health issues and to use that sort of language leads to stigmatisation of hundreds of thousands of people who suffer from similar illnesses but will never perform this type of gruesome act. Where does it stop? Do we go back to referring to the physically handicapped as spazos? 

No, the description of him as a 'madman' stigmatises him, not anyone else, in the same way as the fact that he was a German pilot doesn't stigmatise Germans as a whole.


Perhaps you once referred to physically handicapped people in the way you suggest, but it's a shame that you have to use offensive language in illustrating the point.

In Topic: Germanwings

27 March 2015 - 03:12 PM

Judging by that sentence, I'm assuming you're a Sun reader too. The language used is completely inappropriate, as you'd expect from that rag.

If we can't describe someone as a madman when he has sent 150 innocent people to their deaths by flying them into a mountainside, what can we describe him as?

In Topic: Germanwings

27 March 2015 - 03:10 PM

I can understand that there will be a lot of grief and anger but why on earth would people turn on his poor parents? It's no more their fault than it is yours or mine.

It's difficult to expect everyone to behave in an entirely logical way in these circumstances.